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    Pattern 14 (T) video on Forgotten Weapons

    Here's a good video on the Patten 14 W (T) sniper rifle.

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    A video by someone who does not shoot , or at least does not understand shooting . First a No 1 Mk 3 does not have rear locking LUGS . It is a bridge locker , it locks on the middle of the bolt and the receiver . The single lug on the rear is a cocking assist , it take none of the firing pressure. The P-14 was a very accurate rifle , limited by the poor Britishicon ammo . Bullets do not shoot in minutes of angle , only light travels in MOA . A 3 inch 100 yard group is not going to be a 6 inch 200 yard group . Most WWI sniping was done at about 60 yards , the normal trench distance .

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    Though I'm sure there was some sniping done at close range between the trenches in WWI, if you read the book "A Rifleman Went To War" by Herbert W. McBride, you will find that he regularly sniped Germans out to 600 yards.

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    One Holer,

    He was a very lucky man indeed at that range, if you consider that Sniper Schools were in their infancy! He may of course allude to that in a book, but practically speaking when you are next on the range with a MK1 anything scoped up, try it yourself.
    He must have had calm days, no wind and a bergen full of luck. It is absolutely true that in WW2 snipers were told to take their "maximum kill" shot at 400 metres, McBride clearly didn't go to kill, he must have wounded a lot of men
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    The presenter of Forgotten Weapons does shoot. I do enjoy his presentations and have seen him shoot rifles and pistols on the In Range videos. For the amount of clips he has done, there may be an error here or there. Any presentation on a Pattern 14 T is nice to see.

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    Cheese Noodles,
    I was referring to McBride's claims in his book, not the presenter of the video Ian McCullum's prowess on the range.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gil Boyd View Post
    One Holer,

    He was a very lucky man indeed at that range, if you consider that Sniper Schools were in their infancy! He may of course allude to that in a book, but practically speaking when you are next on the range with a MK1 anything scoped up, try it yourself.
    He must have had calm days, no wind and a bergen full of luck. It is absolutely true that in WW2 snipers were told to take their "maximum kill" shot at 400 metres, McBride clearly didn't go to kill, he must have wounded a lot of men
    McBride was a very accomplished competitive target shooter in the Pre-War era, much like Heskith-Pritchard.

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