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    Perhaps I will try epoxy in the bridge hole and use the screws up front. If I mess up it would not be irrepearable and would only be angry at myself and not have wasted money on an unsatisfactory job.

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    If you don't mind me respectfully suggesting it HoH, you'll be spoiling the ship for 10 cents worth of tar if you epoxy your rifle! Your state will be knee deep in good tig welders who would fill-weld the holes in 5 mts flat for a bit of pocket money cash.

    The method of repairing the holes in the breeching up ring so that the weld doesn't affect the breeched up barrel thread has been detailed earlier and welding them up will make the rifle as good as new. Some on the forum might consider epoxy - as good as it is - as a bit of a ...., er.......... what's the word I'm looking for now........ Anyway, you get my drift.

    And when it's welded properly, you can phosphate and paint and the repair will be invisible. And what's more, it's there for good. Just my take on things

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    In full agreement with your points. My prefrence would be to have the repair done correctly and completely if I can find an individual with the skills required. I think I wil revisit the posts concerning the proper method of repair and ask around a bit to determine if I can find someone with the requsite skills and the ability to convince me they can do the job without ruining the piece. A bit "gun shy" (pardon the pun)
    after having a gunsmith remove the butt stock on a No 1 without removing the forestock first. Minimal damage but a pretty basic Enfield gunsmithing (common knowledge) mistake.

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    OK, here is my set of numbers:

    From: Drawing A.1833 - Original mean dimensions of S.A.F. references, dated 26October 1926
    Holes in receiver LH side:
    Datum: front face of receiver-
    Angle above dead level: 27deg 14 min.
    Distance from datum to centre of:
    Rear hole - 4.2507"
    Front hole - 3.7904"
    Hole diameter:

    Holes on RH side.

    Datum: front face of receiver and bolt-way centre-line.
    Front: 3.5427 from front, 0'5872 below centre
    Rear: 4.0381" from front datum, 0.4688" below centre-line.

    Oddly enough, in drawing A.1837, dated the SAME date, the dimensions are shown in a different style:

    Holes RH side -
    Datum; Centre line of Front receiver screw hole!
    Datum to front RH hole - See Note 27

    Holes, LH side -
    Datum; Centre line of Front receiver screw hole, AGAIN!
    Distance between holes 0.460" which is noted as being taken from Enfield gauge No.1717.
    BIG NOTE: (27), (applies to both LH and RH hole sets): "This figure cannot be ascertained either from Enfield specification or gauges. A difference of 0.16" was noted when Enfield bodies were measured."

    Remember also that the Lithgowicon SMLEs were built on machinery produced by Pratt and Whitney in the US. The entire production system was built using the "Pratt and Whitney inch", as opposed to the "Enfield inch". There IS a difference and Lithgow produced a chart that showed the differences.

    Lee Enfields can be fun and frustrating at the same time.

    ---------- Post added at 07:54 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:47 PM ----------

    Following up on the Lithgow dimension issue:

    The lads were working with TWO sets of drawings and TWO sets of gauges, one from Enfield and one from Pratt and Whitney.

    No wonder things started slowly at the factory. I also suspect that another reason, apart from peacetime / depression that things went slow at the factory post WW1 is that the engineers had to thrash out all of the differences and settle on a standardised set of dimensions and tolerances. Just after the shooting stopped in Europe would would like a good time to do such a massive task.

    As is apparent by my 1926 drawings, things were still in a state of flux at that time.

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    First post her been lurking for a while. I have a 1920 Lithgowicon that is also missing the charger bridge. I havent been able to find one, any leads would be appreciated. Chad

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    Need some parts for My Enfield No.1 MK111

    Hi folks,

    Anyone have a line on:

    -charging bridge
    -top front and rear handguard
    -Lower handguard
    -Nose

    Thanks for the help!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warren View Post
    Drop me a line...I have some that were never installed and in the white...
    Any chance you still have one laying around?? (PM sent)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hokoman View Post
    Now I need a scope. Local gunsmith says that since the Charger Bridge has been removed, he can't mount one. So...
    Not so, there are mounts that go to the side of the receiver. You just have to search them on the internet... Products Archive - Addley Precision
    Regards, Jim

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    Recently picked up a 1943 GRI to restore and I didnt notice it didnt have a charger bridge....I was more concerned that it would shoot well...what are the chances of finding one now, 10yrs after this thread was started? lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by obsidian8 View Post
    Recently picked up a 1943 GRI to restore and I didnt notice it didnt have a charger bridge....I was more concerned that it would shoot well...what are the chances of finding one now, 10yrs after this thread was started? lol
    Probably about the same as when this post started.... Slim to none

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