MEN ARRESTED AND CHARGED OVER GUN FACTORY

[Paul S.]

Some of the comments posted above has me wondering if the National Crime Agency has a budget review coming up. Or, possibly a boss about to retire, or a new now on the job, is shooting for some positive press.

[henry r]

let fix this story.

"police have raided a machine shop and arrested 3 people.
the police tazered one man, it is unsure if he was dodgy and trying to run or just got surly at police for saying his re-enacting dewats/airsoft pistols were live weapons.

on searching they found a small amount of "ammunition", 2 firearms or firearm looking devices and a heap of parts most likely from the companies legitimate business.
one police officer tripped and got a boo boo on his knee.
the men are being remanded as long as possible to a) allow police to work out what they have actually found and b)give time for the general public to forget about this in case no charges will stick.
police have yet to release pictures of the "firearms" to let the public make an informed judgement and have not shown decent pictures of the ammo as it may be dummy rounds."



i am not saving they weren't manufacturing illegal firearms for sale to organized crime but something makes me think this story will turn out to be something far less sinister filled out with 85+% police pr/media hype.

[Lee Enfield]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I understand that the police in the UK lay separate firearms charges for each round of un-licensed ammunition....

The police officer says that they seized 2 firearms - the media say they seized "about 30" firearms.

would it be logical that they laid 26 "firearms" charges based on the 2 (claimed) firearms and the 24 rounds of ammunition displayed?

That adds up to "almost 30", and sounds far more impressive than the apparent reality.

...snip... Rob Hickinbottom, head of the NCA’s national firearms threat centre, said: “Our investigation is continuing, and much of what we have discovered at this location will now be the subject of careful forensic analysis. We suspect this operation has disrupted a group that would appear to be involved in the criminal production of firearms. As a result, we have prevented a potentially large quantity of weapons from getting on to the black market and into the hands of criminals.”

sounds like thought crime at work...or maybe Pre-crime

[Gil Boyd]

Two lads in Luton found guilty today of converting blank weapons into semi auto weapons.
One recieved a Life Sentence the other 20 years.

[GeeRam]

Two lads in Luton found guilty today of converting blank weapons into semi auto weapons.
One recieved a Life Sentence the other 20 years.

Wow...life sentence!

Has the sentencing criteria changed recently then, not expecting to see a life term for that?

Thought the norm these days was a wrist slap for the scum and not a lot else....

[RASelkirk]

Two lads in Luton found guilty today of converting blank weapons into semi auto weapons.
One recieved a Life Sentence the other 20 years.

Was anyone harmed by their actions? What about the **** running around stabbing citizens to death and getting 10 year sentences??? Same s**t happens over here, non-violent crimes net you 20 - life, but take a life and your out in 5. Makes no sense at all...

Russ

[enfield303t]

With all respect England is done like dinner. Those who deny it just have their head in the sand.

Sad how a once great nation is now over run by people who are doing a great job of destroying the fabric of the nation with the blessing of the politically correct.

[Gil Boyd]

Russ, there is no rhyme nor reason to sentencing in UK courts. It is what the judge hears and what the jury return which makes it legal. I know in the past year there have been several killings attributed to these two.
In the UK, Life and 20 years pretty much mean 10 years on good behaviour!!

Here is the news link BBC: 'Lethal' Bedfordshire imitation firearm converters jailed - BBC News

[Paul S.]

...
In the UK, Life and 20 years pretty much mean 10 years on good behaviour!!

Here is the news link BBC: 'Lethal' Bedfordshire imitation firearm converters jailed - BBC News

That's as it is in NSW as well.

[Vincent]

A man here recently reactivated a DEWAT (Deactivated War Trophy) MP40 and a MP44. It didn’t make the news because it’s legal here as long as the paperwork is done and Tax paid.

Yes, law abiding citizens can have reactivated fully automatic machineguns here.