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    Hard Primers?

    May I have recommendations for brand(s) of 'hard' small rifle primers for reloading M1icon Carbine. Have read read recommendation for 'hard' primer to minimize risk of slam-fire. I will be loading Winchestrer powder and wondered if their pimers were suitable. Thanks.
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    Winchester primers are "hot" primers. For such a small case capacity, I would use CCI. Just my opinion.

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    Remington 7 1/2 are hard primers, Wolf Small Rifle Magnum, or anyother small rifle magnum would suit your situation.
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    I use the CCI #41 primers for my AR-15 and never had a problem. I plan to use the #41 primers when I start reloading M1icon Carbine ammo. If they work fine if not then I will consider types of primers. By the way CCI states their MIL primers are "less sensitive" than their other primers.

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    The slamfire prevention steps for an M1icon Carbine are the same as for an M1 Rifle or any other free-floating firing pin. They include:

    -Proper reloading techniques including proper case prep, primer pocket prep, and primer seating

    -Proper rifle maintenance including ensuring the chamber is clean and free of obstructions, the firing pin is not broken or stuck, and the safety bridge is not worn or chipped or cracked

    -Proper single loading technique including controlling bolt closing velocity by not allowing the bolt to run forward from full back, using extra power springs, or loading with the muzzle pointed down at extreme angles (admittedly single loading an M1 Carbine is such a PITA this isn't usually much of a factor)

    -Avoiding the use of primers reported to be more sensitive than others. The trouble here is there is no real data available; just lots of hearsay and anecdote

    Supposedly Federal are more sensitive than other brands. The CCI #41s are advertised as meeting milspec (which includes other specs in addition to sensitivity such as the ability to light ball powders reliably in arctic conditions). I've used Remington and CCI Standard with no problems.

    Primer selection is only a small part of the process. Fail to do the other parts and no primer made will stop a slamfire

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    i've use every brand of primer avaliable in the 30 carbine without any slamfires. the only way you might get a slamfire is to drop the round in the chamber an let the bolt slam home on it an even then i doubt it will happen. now if your primers aren't seated properly it is possible to happen.
    now back to the differant primer brands, i wonder what does winchester or remington,or any other famous ammo maker uses,i'll bet their own brand.
    slamfires are caused ,not by primer brand but by sloppy reloading.

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