Sub Calibre adaptors.............

[mrclark303]

Hmmm, as my RFD is adding my kit (and spare barrel) to his US order, the kit will "officially" be coming from him .... With that in mind, I think it will need to be proofed as it will go through his books??

I seem to recall you saying Peter, that the original kits were proofed out of the rifle, some sort of jig I would guess??

Or is it two Germans, one holding the liner and bolt group together on a bench and the other with a proof round and toffee hammer!

"You hold it Hans and I'll hit it"

[Peter Laidler]

Yes, the original kits are proofed as stand-alone. It would defeat the idea of proofing and barrel strength if the barrel could be 'proofed' inside a tight chamber where it couldn't be subject to any ........ Anyway, that was from Lt Col Wxxxxxx head of UK Mil proof at Cold Meese.

Shame about the RFD connection. Private import really is VERY simple...........

[mrclark303]

Quick update, the new kit and spare liner are ready to ship, the close up pics of the bolt group were quite a surprise, wonderful quality, looks to be better made than the original HK kit.

[Ex Crab]

A square 10, that looks very good. What ammo did you use?

[Cleetorpes1]

Hi know I am a few years late but does any one have the details for the RFD who imported the kits

[mrclark303]

The RFD I used has been defunct in the UK for a few years now unfortunately.

Mine originally came via the Fal-Files group buy ( you will need to see if this is still going, I'm somewhat out of date on the program) picking up a spare liner on route and off to the UK.

Plenty of pics and info on here regarding the kit.
Assuming you can find one, the liners are fragile and will require hand fitting to snugly fit the new barrel.

You may also need to modify the rifle, depending on the modifications carried out to the bolt group on your specific rifle by the builder.

The US made bolt group is designed for US spec semi autos (lacking the auto/safety sear).

[desperatedan]

Hi know I am a few years late but does any one have the details for the RFD who imported the kits

If you can find one bear in mind that your UK FAC with the correct variation will count as appropriate import documentation at the UK end of things. Mine was a personal import without needing an RFD but the export side of the transaction might be more of a challenge.

If you do succeed in getting hold of one, if it comes with metric (FAL) .22 magazines I'd be happy to trade original L1A1 (inch) .22 kit mags with you. I have an FAL but use an L1A1 kit and have some extra spare inch mags. I did acquire an inch kit mag with a modified (ground down) front tab that works with my FAL but I'd prefer to get hold of a proper FAL metric mag as a spare rather than have to modify another original inch kit magazine.

Good luck with your searches.

[mrclark303]

A prisoner exchange you say Kev..
Well, funny you should say that, I happen to have two Fal .22 conversion mags, could certainly use some additional inch pattern examples.

I was thinking of transferring the guts into inch shells, but swapping would be way easier!

Ping me a PM mate...

[Cleetorpes1]

Thanks for the reply, if I can’t find one I was looking * at the possibility of having one manufactured, I know of at least one other person interested. As you already have one would you consider letting me come and have a look some time and taking some detailed measurements to help with the project, also where did you get your get your spare barrel liner from [Please use the PM feature]
Thanks Mark
Ps if any one else is interested pleas e let me know

[Bruce_in_Oz]

As far as I am aware, because these adapters (at least the H&K ones) were intended for indoor ranges and to be fed exclusively with wax-lubricated, "standard-velocity" ammo. These indoor "cine" rangeswere usually equipped with the 16mm movie projector synchronized to the big paper scrolling screen "targets". The rifles were SUPPOSED to be used ONLY with "standard velocity" ammo, not any of that "hot" field / hunting stuff. High (relatively speaking) pressure ammo seems to steadily expand the wafer-thin adapter "tube" into the rifling in the 7.62mm barrel; NASTY!

Live sub-cal shooting is long gone from many "service" establishments due to "concerns" about safety and security, stock accounting, ammo "forecasting", and so on. "WTSS / "Laser-Tag" on a digital video indoor "range" is the go these days.

When I was a young Digger, we sometimes did L1A1 shoots, (usually grouping practices) with actual 7.62 NATO ammo on sundry outdoor 25m ranges. At least on such occasions you got the whole experience; dust, noise, recoil, nasty biting insects in the trousers, etc..