Question for old-smithy, 1907 remington...

[bigduke6]

Picked up a nice SMLE 1907 remington bayonet other day (09/15), bayonet is very good and scabbard has a few worn areas, scabbard is marked H.G.R.17 i would say the scabbard was originaly dark brown.
with the 17 after after the HGR would this be from a 1917 bayonet? will post some pics this afternoon.

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[old-smithy]

The 17 is the dat eof manufacture of the scabbard, scabbards were not numbered to a blade typically by this time, so if a scabbard got damamged a new one would be issued as available. Remingtons woudl originally have had a remington scabbard, HGR was a commercial maker in the UK. The pairing coudl have been made at any time, I have several blades in Remington scabbards that would have originally had a UK maker, also scabbards with remington fittings on new leather

[bigduke6]

Thanks Old-smithy,
Am a bit rusty on the bayonet knowledge, have just started to collect again mainly 1907 or early enfield, metford etc, had a big clearout few years ago but kept some 1907 back, worst mistake i made was selling my vickers made 1907. thought i,d still post some pics of my latest

[old-smithy]

The Vickers are not as rare as the apparent production figures show, in my experience the Mole is by far the hardest to find, the ratio being well in excess of 10 vickers to every Mole despite production figures being the other way around. Of course that may just be that the Vickers are highlighted more often in sales due to it's "rarity" but I dont think so. THe prepencity for Vickers to be marked with Canadian acceptances makes me think they may have done a contract direct for Canada that is not reflected in the production figures typically quoted.

[bigduke6]

Any chance they may have been produced in canada? i know Vickers had a canadian division of the company.
Allways thought the Vickers production quoted on the internet as 10,000 was a low figure considering vickers had a lot of fingers in many pies at the time.
I did have some history on the company, as i served my apprenticeship at V.S.E.L (Vickers shipbuilding and engineering ltd) in Barrow-in furness, this was when the company was privatetised but was one of the last descendents of Vickers armstrong ltd.

[old-smithy]

Anything is possible, although I have never seen any mention in any canadian reference book either. There is a Vickers on Ebay at the moment

[bigduke6]

I seen it yesterday, will have a bid nearer the end. My funds are at low again after a buying spree, may have enough to cover it.

[old-smithy]

I seen it yesterday, will have a bid nearer the end. My funds are at low again after a buying spree, may have enough to cover it.

Good luck, hope i didnt jinx it

[bigduke6]

I managed to get home to bid at the last minute but because of ebays stupidity i needed to varify my age due to the item being listed under Knives, i didnt have time to varify my age so the Vickers went for peanuts.
I called ebay this morning (i also called them a lot of other names), the thing what got my back up was i have had a few bayonets in the last few weeks, a warning for all UK collectors check the listing has not got knives in.
£66 for a vickers 1907 with a mint blade, wrong scabbard, bargain of the year or last few years.

[old-smithy]

Ouch that was good for one of those, the stupid ***** UK government person who stirred this up has made life difficult for UK buyers, I hope the non ability to buy nasty knives from EBAY has made your streets safer!! It has however seemed to mean that commonwealth collectors like me are seeing a price reduction as UK bidders can only watch and fume