Erma 22 M1 carbines - Anyone shot one?

[neal455]

Your mum rocked!! Here in the Uk things like that Dont Happen!! We might get a air rifle (like i did) and that started it all off for me!!!
Currently convertiing a Erma E M1 to real M1 stocked rifle, we cant have M1's in the UK as they are semi auto, the limit is .22 rim fire here. Every thing else straight pull or bolt action and no conversion from semi are aloud. No SLR, M1, AR15's etc

[unclero]

Got one for my birthday .



With three mags, a bag, a spare stock and a box with some misc parts.

Well, not exactly my birthday, I just happened to celebrating my birthday, the same day I went to the police station to add it to my license.
I got it from a pal at the gun club, apparently he bought a whole collection from someone for a small amount of money, and he only needed a couple of things from it, so he started to give away the rest... Except for the Erma, since noone was interested in it (too small caliber for most, I'm the only one who loves smallbore). He was just thinking of scrapping it (selling it to the gunstore doesnt really bring some money, they're selling them here for 160 euro tops), when I walked in..

Alright, I tested it out.. First try: tight groups (out of 5 on 25 meters, 2 went through the 10).
Second try: ammo jammed.
Then I checked the mags out, and I noticed that 2 of 'm have a sort of dent on the back, near the opening. Somebody knows where that is for?
The mag without the dent worked flawless (shot 50 rounds without a jam).

[neal455]

What ammo are you using ?? THe ABSOLUTE best for these is CCI MINI MAG Hv copper coated rounds. I have found Remington thunderbolts work well too but jam a tiny bit more. Any waxed rounds will jam every other cycle. These rifles are very mag dependant too. ANY damage to the lips will cause it to miss feed. Often when a round is chambered it will flick up if those feeding lips are not 100%
I have found over loading the mag is what buggers them the quickest, you are better loading 9 rounds in a 10 or 14 in a 15 etc. . When you first clip it in if its full it flattens those lips, then it starts to feed poorly. . . Post some pics of the mags. I get mine from Numrich they will send them to me in the UK. I just picked up a .22 WMR E M1 even more fun and more like a real M1 BUT it only has a 5 round mag. Anyone know where there are any other magnum mags ??

[Wineman]

The alternative to an Erma would be to add Tech-Sights to your 10-22. Could be the same price as the sights are $70 for the set. I have them and they are great.

Tech-SIGHTS Precision Shooting Accessories

Wineman

[neal455]

10-22 are great if you get a good one ! Some new ones really aint! They still dont have "M1 fun factor"! I am shooting a competition next week for .22's but they wont let me use my Erma i have to use a 10-22 to keep it fair. Tells me smething that does . .

[unclero]

What ammo are you using ??

CCI Standard..
Works fine, except that when it jams, it usually damages the bullet horribly.
As long as these rounds work perfect, I'm fine.
Not to mention my ammosafe is not large enough to contain a whole bunch of different ammo's . (aside from the fact that CCI standard are the cheapest and me being Dutch and all)

I have found over loading the mag is what buggers them the quickest, you are better loading 9 rounds in a 10 or 14 in a 15 etc. . When you first clip it in if its full it flattens those lips, then it starts to feed poorly. . .

I usually shoot in rounds of 5.. Haven't even tried how many rounds would fit in the mags, but 5'll do fine.

Post some pics of the mags.

I will... After I found the USB cable of my camera.

[unclero]

Found the USB cable..



The one on the right is the one that doesnt jam..

And here, the differences between the ones on the left, and the one on the right:

[neal455]

Ok the left and center i have not seen before, they by not be original.They have ERMA .22 stamped on originals on the aluminium body you can see and the copies tend to have it stamped on the steel part that goes up inside the rifle.
if i can find my camera charger lead i will post up some pics of mine

[unclero]

Ok the left and center i have not seen before, they by not be original.They have ERMA .22 stamped on originals on the aluminium body you can see and the copies tend to have it stamped on the steel part that goes up inside the rifle.
if i can find my camera charger lead i will post up some pics of mine

Hmm... altough the 'non-original' ones indeed look very different, they also have the 'ERMA EM1 .22l.r' stamped on the body..

[neal455]

Mmmmm . . . Interesting
Found my lead tonight so will do some pics tomorrow for you !