Long Branch 1944 .22 with transit chest

[Claven2]

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FS 1944 Long Branch .22 (precursor to the later Cno7)

VG+ condition. A very nice looking rifle. There is a ding in the wrist of the buttstock, a couple of small marks here and there but overall very nice.
The buttstock is N length. Buyer would have the choice of it or a B Bantam length buttstock which is like new, I'll swap it if desired.

The receiver number was scrubbed and restamped to match the bolt number as is typical of many of these rifles, thus matching numbers. I've read that this renumbering was SOP in the Canadian Forces, although most of these were reassembled from parts after service.
The barrel has been indexed properly by my gunsmith, meaning the flat on the knox form is parallel to the ears for the rear sight, thus it can be sighted in accurately at various distances.

Included is the rifle shown, transit chest as shown (in very nice shape) and 3 Canadian Army targets as shown. No accessories or cleaning rod included. Further pics available on request.

Hmm... I'm suspicious. It's in my nature. I don't recall renumbering of receivers being "SOP" in the Canadian Forces. I also don't think No.4 based trainers were typically "reassembled from parts after service".

Finally, why did the barre lhave to be properly indexed by the seller's gunsmith if it's an original military trainer???

Caveat Emptor gents.

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[Badger]

Here's the pics to go with the advertisement..........

Although the chest is a grey color, the straps are correct for a Canadian built chest. I can't see the back of the chest to check the hinges, but there should be 4 screws for each hasp.

Regards,
Badger

[stencollector]

The actual SOP for renumbering of receivers was that the origional number would be barred out (but still legible) and the new serial stamped nearby. I have seen this procedure on stens, enfields, and SMG- C1

This rifle will have been built on a recycled Cno7 receiver. The Cdn Army tore down rifles back in the late 50s and placed the components back into supply for re-use later. The receivers had the serial number area ground off and reparked or reblued. In some cases, they were used in the military system as replacement receivers, some of these receivers were surplussed out into the civilian market (as evidenced by sales at Elwood Epps recently), and some are "liberated" by enterprising armourers and made into rifles again. There still remain several hundred of these receivers in the military system as well.

The problem with many of these rifles which were assembled "post military service", is that the guys making them do not have the wrenches to index the barrels properly, and often do not get them far enough on. This was likely the case with this rifle. As well, the guys assembling them do not know enough to keep the serial numbers correct for the year of the rifle (and certainly no higher than 20L000 for any of the 44,45, and 46 rifles). Instead, they match the serial of the rifle to whatever bolt they have handy.

This rifle is not going to be a DND released rifle. As such, I think the seller has priced it accordingly, with perhaps a bit of dicker room. I see multiples of this type of "post service" rifle as opposed to factory correct Cno7s. An all matching, factory correct Cno7 with it's accessories is at or past the $1000 mark these days in my opinion.

[Cantom]

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Hmm... I'm suspicious. It's in my nature. I don't recall renumbering of receivers being "SOP" in the Canadian Forces. I also don't think No.4 based trainers were typically "reassembled from parts after service".

Finally, why did the barre lhave to be properly indexed by the seller's gunsmith if it's an original military trainer???

Caveat Emptor gents.

The description of that rifle was 100% honest and correct based on everything I've learnt about them.(Stencollector has taught me a lot)

I certainly could have left some of the details out to make it sound better but fully described it so nobody could claim it was misrepresented...it sold for full price btw to a scoutmaster who teaches kids shooting...a great destination and use for it. I wish I had a nickle for every rifle that is listed for sale with one poorly focused pic and no more available and a very sketchy and incomplete description...