Thought I'd Check Out A Local M-1 Carbine

[stickhauler]

Listed on Gun Broker, it had been offered last week and obviously didn't get to the reserve price, so they re-listed it:

M-1 Carbine Inland Division General Motors M1 .30 : Semi-auto at GunBroker.com


The pictures of it in the ad make it look a lot better than it appears in person. The list price at the shop was $725.00, when asked if the price was firm they did say they'd drop it by $25.00. At that price, there's no way I'd buy it. I'm kind of surprised they don't have the other one they have in stock for auction. They have an IBM that the stock actually looks better, the action looks better, their price still sucks on it as well, they want $800.00 for it.

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[Neal Myers]

I would have to assume it's a Blue Sky import, since the seller did not state "not import marked".

Since the seller is a dealer, I would expect him to have a bore scope & a MW gauge. Since he did not mention the bore condition or measurement, I assume that it is shot out.

Now, what is it about this carbine that you like?

[imarangemaster]

I think you would be ahead to get a rack grade Inland for $415 or Saginaw for $479 from CMP. At their worst lately, they still shoot well, and usually the stocks clean up with a little elbow grease and Boiled linseed oil. My Inland racker will be here Monday (4 wks and 3 days after I mailed it). For the kind of money he is charging, you could get a Bavarian return with a flip sight and type 1 band.

The pictures look like he heavily oiled the stock before taking pictures. It is an auction trick. The shine hides ugly finishes.

[stickhauler]

I would have to assume it's a Blue Sky import, since the seller did not state "not import marked".

Since the seller is a dealer, I would expect him to have a bore scope & a MW gauge. Since he did not mention the bore condition or measurement, I assume that it is shot out.

Now, what is it about this carbine that you like?

No, it's not an import marked one, he didn't have a bore scope or MW gauge either. I did check it with an .06 round, it's pretty well shot out, almost ate the bullet itself.

I didn't like it myself, since it was a local seller, I just thought I'd check it out myself and see if they were willing to deal (if it was a rifle I'd consider buying), and $25.00 off their tag price sure didn't make it more attractive.

This was the first time I'd been to this shop, my son had gone there once and said he felt they treated him pretty rudely, but I figured I'd give them a chance. All the other guns they had that I might have been interested in were priced at least $200.00 more than I'd pay for them.

[stickhauler]

I think you would be ahead to get a rack grade Inland for $415 or Saginaw for $479 from CMP. At their worst lately, they still shoot well, and usually the stocks clean up with a little elbow grease and Boiled linseed oil. My Inland racker will be here Monday (4 wks and 3 days after I mailed it). For the kind of money he is charging, you could get a Bavarian return with a flip sight and type 1 band.

I'd say from the condition of it, a rack grade from CMP would likely be a much better shooter overall. I'd bought a Rock Ola from my usual gun shop not more than 6 months ago for right around $600.00, it had a replacement stock, but a majority of the innards are Rock Ola parts. So, it really shocked me that this place felt they were justified in asking that much for a really used up Inland.

The pictures look like he heavily oiled the stock before taking pictures.

It's not oiled, it looked more like varnish. My only problem is finding the time to head up to Camp Perry to find me a good rack grade Inland. My main reason for wanting to add an Inland is they were made here in town during the war, so the rational is more local historical significance than anything else.

[jimb16]

I seriously doubt they will get the asking price. It just isn't worth that kind of $.

[INLAND44]

1-44 barrel is too early for the serial number. Check out the wear on the receiver from the slide. Along with a shot-out barrel, I'd say it's a safe bet this one was used as an M2 and pretty much shot out. When I see one or more indicators of this, I always look at the feed ramp - if it has two grooves worn from bullet noses coming out of the magazine, you can bet it was an M2 at one time even if the M1 has not been altered. These are almost always used up in every way.

[stickhauler]

Well, that auction ended without them getting the price they wanted for a reserve price, it's listed again the same way:

M-1 Carbine Inland Division General Motors M1 .30 : Semi-auto at GunBroker.com


And this one made me laugh:

Winchester WWII M-1 Carbine - CMP - C&R : Semi-auto at GunBroker.com


Mostly Winchester? Even this rookie eyeball sees an Inland marking on the trigger group. And you can own it today for the low price of only $1,350.00.

[imarangemaster]

Well, that auction ended without them getting the price they wanted for a reserve price, it's listed again the same way:

M-1 Carbine Inland Division General Motors M1 .30 : Semi-auto at GunBroker.com


And this one made me laugh:

Winchester WWII M-1 Carbine - CMP - C&R : Semi-auto at GunBroker.com


Mostly Winchester? Even this rookie eyeball sees an Inland marking on the trigger group. And you can own it today for the low price of only $1,350.00.

That "Mostly Winchester" must be offered by the Snake OIl salesman I used to see....

[Tired Retired]

It really bothers me that the weapons (and stocks) in both those posts have been covered in a light coat of oil when they took the pictures. I would never keep my weapons or stocks that "wet". While it makes for nice shiny pictures, it tells me that they are hiding the real appearance of the weapons - just like a model wearing make-up. Add a six-pack and it may look great tonight, but watch out for what you wake up to in the morning!