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    Quote Originally Posted by 66Zoomie View Post
    Maniac/Charlie -
    I've got an M1icon carbine that I purchased from DCM back in either late 1960 or early 1961. It's a Saginaw S'G', 18635xx, with an Underwood 9-43 barrel. It was rebuilt at Rock Island Armory sometime between 1947 and 1958 from the RIA over EB boxed cartouche on the left side of the InlandType 3 stock.
    I'm new to carbine collecting; what's UEF? Underwood barrel presumably, but what's the EF stand for?
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    I'm wondering the same thing Phil. This was only about establishing an updated research data base that could have helped everyone, including publishers. This should be an open group effort with all known info in one place.

    This web site is now the premier web site for knowledge. That is what it was put together for from the beginning. It's a good place to talk, but Doug put it together for the betterment of all for research.

    I have all the carbine books published and many of the dates don't match each other. (Not close sometimes)

    The outstanding members here will often post updates from their knowledge gleaned from many resources and their own personal knowledge as far as dates.
    I hope we can get over old ideas, and work together in this collective resource that is now available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phil441 View Post
    Years ago, I moderated or co-owned several boards pertaining to classic or antique Motorcycles.
    Never in the years of those projects was a member advised to join a "pay to use" group to obtain additional information. Nor was a member ever chided to "research it" further.
    If anyone had the information, they provided it. If the reply would have required too much retyping, the advice would be to visit a http://www.Wxyz site to get the whole answer.
    Are Carbine owners such an Elitist bunch?
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    The Carbine Club just published the most exhaustive and extensive serial number list to date:

    The Carbine Club - A CMP Affiliated Organization

    There was obviously much time and expense incurred collectively to do this. Their membership is $18 per year for 6 issues. Is that too much to spend? I don't understand why this information always needs to be given away gratis to those who don't feel like doing their own research. Is $3 per issue too much to pay for the most concise carbine serial number list ever published? This doesn't even pay for out-of-pocket costs incurred, the cost of publishing, and does not even consider the time involved. This is considered "elitist?"

    Do you expect those who publish hard bound books on the subject, or any subject, to send you one gratis? Are they all "elitists" because they won't? I don't see the difference. Most who complain about this have never done any hard research or have nothing to contribute so their excuse about lack of gratuitous information is always met with "elitism."
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    Quote Originally Posted by 66Zoomie View Post
    Maniac/Charlie -
    I've got an M1icon carbine that I purchased from DCM back in either late 1960 or early 1961. It's a Saginaw S'G', 18635xx, with an Underwood 9-43 barrel. It was rebuilt at Rock Island Armory sometime between 1947 and 1958 from the RIA over EB boxed cartouche on the left side of the InlandType 3 stock.
    I'm new to carbine collecting; what's UEF? Underwood barrel presumably, but what's the EF stand for?
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    Ya know, I think I see a big aurguement coming on this.... I dont know if I want to express my opinion or if I want to sit on the sidelines and sell the popcorn....

    So it begins.....

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