Webley question for Capt. Laidler

[gravityfan]

Hope I may beg everyone's indulgence for posting a non-Enfield question here, but there is no forum for Webleys, and I know Capt. Laidler is active in this forum. Apologies if I am off-beam.

Capt. Laidler, I know you speak from your considerable experience regarding Enfields, L1A1s and the like. Would I be correct in assuming that you also have knowledge of Webleys? Hope so, and surprised if not.

I was shooting my MkVI (skimmed to 45ACP sadly), and getting my usual result of fair groups but all low and left of POA, so I tried a little test.

I have one of those down the bore expanding collet laser bore sighters. It has proven to be pretty good and most useful, so I trust it pretty well. I put it on the MkVI and at 7 yards range, the laser dot was 7" down and 2" left of the POA. My technique isn't great, but no amount of squinting and going cross-eyed could align the laser dot into the sight picture.

So I tested my unskimmed VI; my V, IV, III, II and I; even my W&G Target. They all, quite consistantly, exhibit the same phenomenon. They all give a laser spot 6 or 7 inches down and 1 or 2 inches left of the POA.

Between checks of each of the Webleys, I verified by similarly checking other pistols/revolvers such as a Taurus 1911 and a couple of S&Ws. These latter all have the laser spot right at the POA.

So, something is odd with the Webleys. Was there any data concerning alignment or similar? Was it built-in compensation for offhand muzzle climb maybe? I'd not expect that from the Target Model at least.

I'd appreciate any insight you can offer.

Cheers and many thanks.

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[Beerhunter]

Its a slow heavy bullet and so the barrel will have moved quite considerably before it leaves the barrel.

If you look at the foresight of a S&W Hand Ejector in .455 it is very high in order to cope with the .455 round.

As an example of this, I once had a .450 (a blackpowder round) that shot eighteen inches above point of aim at twenty yards. The fix would have been to speed up the bullet but I was already loading thirteen grains of blackpowder into the cases and there was just no more room for more.

[Peter Laidler]

I've got no experience of shooting the big old Webley except for finding one when my dad died, marked CSM Laidler 102Coy! My era was the old No2 pistol

[Omark]

I've got no experience of shooting the big old Webley except for finding one when my dad died, marked CSM Laidler 102Coy! My era was the old No2 pistol

I am looking to set up a webley shoot as part of our service rifle club here in NZ. I am a massive webley fan and have been trying to find a course of fire for a .455 inch webley match. There are a number of small arms training manuals available but none of them appear to mention the target size, and firing distance. Any information on these details for the .455 would be most appreciated.

[Woodsy]

Given that the Mk VI Webley is a double-action revolver built for combat, I wouldn't be surprised if the misalignment was deliberate to compensate for the natural tendency to pull shots to the right when shooting double-action.