Pls translate Chinese markings on USS M1911A1

[breakeyp]

Can someone translate the Chinese characters on this Chinese conversion of a Union Switch and Signal M1911A1 to .30 Mauser?

My last effort to translate markings on a C96 Mauser pistol revealed that it was "made in Germany!" Hopefully this wil be more interstsing.

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[gunner]

breakyp,

I looked for some Chinese symbols and i found a lot on Google ( they have thousands of it ). Here is a website wich is for Japanese guns and bayos. At this site there are also chinese marked pistols so take a look at it maybe it helps.

Nambu World: Showa 19.6 Nationalist Chinese Marked Type 94

Regards

Gunner

[Alan Collector]

I also have a 1911A1 with the same markings but are located just in front of the serrations on the ejection side of the slide. My 1911A1 is a Colt serial number 912### manufactured in 1943. I have been advised by several Chinese persons that the markings mean "field tested" or "field approved".
Does anyone know the history behind the markings on this pistol?

[Ken Hill]

Can someone translate the Chinese characters on this Chinese conversion of a Union Switch and Signal M1911A1 to .30 Mauser?

Are you sure it is .30 Mauser and not 7.62 x 25. What kind of magazine came with it. Is the front strap of the pistol thinned out?

Lastly, was this a Navy Arms import? /Ken

[jmoore]

How much different is .30 Mauser than 7.62x25? Only the powder charge, I thought...

[breakeyp]

Regarding ammunition, my understanding is that .30 Mauser and 7.63x25 Russian/Chinese are pretty much the same. They function in the Tokarev Pistol and Mauser C96 Broomhandles. I say .30 Mauser because I can remember it better than numbers and that is what Remington called the cartridges as printed on their boxes. The later hot loaded 7.63x25 Czech for their VZ52 pistol are extremely hot and will tear a broomhandle apart. There may be a word of warning there. I don't shoot them, so it is not a problem for me.

The reworked 1911s are import marked. The magazine wells have been changed to accept the longer cartridge and the magazines reworked to fit. The floor plates have been tapered and the magazine body altered to follow the taper. A normal .45 mag will no longer fit in the magazine well.

The barrel is new production and about 1/4 inch of material has been added to the slde breech face--making the ejection port smaller.

[Ken Hill]

According to a good friend and native speaker:

First character means: to keep
Second character: for use

In context it is a "proof" in that it passed an inspection.

I noticed the "?ld, NJ" also in the picture. In the 80's, Navy Arms imported a bunch of Tokarev pistols and some 1911's converted to that round. Those import records along with the serial number of your pistol might provide the source country which could prove interesting. /Ken

[jmoore]

Regarding ammunition, my understanding is that .30 Mauser and 7.63x25 Russian/Chinese are pretty much the same. They function in the Tokarev Pistol and Mauser C96 Broomhandles. I say .30 Mauser because I can remember it better than numbers and that is what Remington called the cartridges as printed on their boxes. The later hot loaded 7.63x25 Czech for their VZ52 pistol are extremely hot and will tear a broomhandle apart.

That was my understanding as well. I DO tend to shoot most everything (which is one reason I avoid NIB stuff), so it's of rather more than academic interest.

[Chuckindenver]

i had a chance to buy one last year with capture papers,
i should have picked it up, noticed they squished the frame so it would feed the 7.62x 25 round...
word of caution.
the 7.62x25 is a bit hotter then the .30 Mauser. and may ruin that nice old Broom handle.
that russian round is a nasty little booger, said to blow right through a bulet proof vest.
iv shot the Tokarev and the CZ,, wow, impressive too say the least.
i had played with an idea of a Makarov and converting it to the 7.62x25 round.
dont think it would handle the pressure, but what a fist full of power that would be.