#4 Enfield assembly problem

**Black Lab** · 03-02-2010 03:05 AM

I bought a #4 Sporter awhile ago and decided to restore it. I got a new forend and some other parts that I needed. I finally started to put it back together tonight.

Something is Wrong and I am at a loss as what to do. The front swivel band is way off.

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**jmoore** · 03-02-2010 03:59 AM

Origins of the fore end and the band?

More pics from other angles and an overall fore end view might help.

No4 and No5 mid bands are the same, I think. 2a1 mid band?

Or is the wood new mfg?

**villiers** · 03-02-2010 05:39 AM

Nothing might be wrong as it looks as if the band is sitting proud of the groove. If you can get the two lugs just a bit closer together, the sling swivel should take up most of the space, with the screw tightening the two lugs on the band that holds the fore-end to the handguard.

**madcratebuilder** · 03-02-2010 11:01 AM

Originally Posted by villiers

Nothing might be wrong as it looks as if the band is sitting proud of the groove. If you can get the two lugs just a bit closer together, the sling swivel should take up most of the space, with the screw tightening the two lugs on the band that holds the fore-end to the handguard.

+1
Get the band down in the groove, that may help.

**Black Lab** · 03-02-2010 05:31 PM

The fore arm came from Numrich Arms. It was very dirty but new, looked like it had been laying in a bin for years Origin is anyone's guess. I'll get some more pictures later, Got to Go take the dogs for a walk. Jack

The fore stock has what looks like a 138 inside a box with a U above. Picture is upside down.

**Edward Horton** · 03-02-2010 08:56 PM

Try a different variation band like the sheet metal third variation band below.

This one had the opposite problem and required a "band-aid" by the Armourer.

Now tighten up.

**Black Lab** · 03-02-2010 09:47 PM

One of my problems is spare parts. I just remembered last night that I need a front band. Who sells these parts now a day's ? As far as the fore arm goes, I'll just have to shave the groove down.

I was hoping I had it on backwards or something

Jack

**Edward Horton** · 03-03-2010 12:51 AM

Try other bands off your other Enfields, if they do the same thing chances are you will need to remove a little wood.

DO NOT remove any wood until you are positive the band you have is the correct one. "Measure twice, cut once".
And not "I cut this board three times and its still too short"

**Black Lab** · 03-03-2010 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by Edward Horton

Try other bands off your other Enfields, if they do the same thing chances are you will need to remove a little wood.

DO NOT remove any wood until you are positive the band you have is the correct one. "Measure twice, cut once".
And not "I cut this board three times and its still too short"

I must be lucky. Last night I started to shave the groove down, but with no results. This morning I saw your post and tried a band off a #5 and it fits like a Glove.

Albeit, It is deeply recessed. I found a CE 1967 stamped into the metal guard on the fore stock that I never noticed before. The band that I had been trying looked just like the one in your picture, complete with the welding marks. Now I have a#5 with no band. Would that band be from a #1

Jack

**jmoore** · 03-04-2010 06:36 AM

Broad arrow marked No4 or No5 band it is, so, no not a SMLE band or even an Indian 2a1 band. Will it fit your No5?

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