Help to ID this Israeli Mauser 7.62

[ap3572001]

I need to know what I have here. Its an FN marked Israeli Mauser in 7.62.

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[Pattern14]

Looks like a Fabrique Nationale D'Armes de Guerre, Herstal - Belgique, (Belgian National Military Arms Factory) which started out around early 1950 as an 8mm Mauser and later rebarreled to 7.62 x 51 NATO by the Israeli Defense Force in the middle to late 50's hence the 7.62 on the receiver and most likely marked 7.62 on the bottom of the stock back by the butt plate.

[ap3572001]

Thank You ! Serial number 610xxx , the same on the bolt. Yes, the stock is marked 7.62. The Barrel is marked 1954. 7.62. I can not find any importation marks on it? The barrel is VERY good . I don't use this rifle at all. If I put it in FOR SALE section , I dont even know what to ask for it? The only guns I see on auction sites are the German rifles in 7.62 in really poor condition.

Where woudl I look for importation marks?

Thank You .

[Pattern14]

If it was imported it was probably CAI, St Albans, VT (Century International Arms) and would be marked on the barrel by the front sight or somewhere on the receiver. Blue Book value is approx. $275 at the lower end up to $600 for an EXCELLENT/like new rifle. Most of these were well used(AKA "beat up") by the Israeli's and usually fetch around $200 more or less. The bayonet is a plus.

[ap3572001]

I took off the front hand guard and found " Armscorp Silver Springs MD" . I think its a 1980's Import. Rifle does not look used. I would like to know more about this one.

[jon_norstog]

AP, just a thought: you might try contacting the office of the military attache at the Israeli embassy in Washington. IIRC the Israelis were pretty quick to arm up in the '50s. They eventually acquired FN-FALs for their front line units, and that was the main battle rifle in the 6-day war. The FN-FALs were kind of sensitive to sand and dust and were in their turn replaced by the Galil, beginning in the early '70s.

Your rifle looks like an armory queen. I'd think it has some collector value because the numbers match, it's got the crest, it's in good shape and it has its bayonet.

Good luck with it!

[jonnyc]

Nothing more to know about it than has been posted above. The "Armscorp" imports from the 1980s were MUCH nicer than the recent batch that came via Guatemala. Great shooters.

[ap3572001]

Thank's to all of You.

Few things I still would like to know:

Since the rifle looks almost knew ( inside and out). Were these guns refurbished to look this way? Or its unissued? '

The numbers on the receiver match the numbers on the bolt, the barrel is marked 1954 . I am wondering , how did this rifle begin its life? Was it build the way that I have it?

Also, it shoots HIGH at 100 yards. is there any way to : 1). put on a taller front sight. OR 2). put an adjustable rear sight that can be installed W/O drilling any holes in the gun.

And the last thing, If I was to offer the rifle for sale ( OR TRADE) what is the REASONABLE VALUE of this rifle.


THANK YOU . Alex

[jonnyc]

It was built as a 7.92, then converted to 7.62 Nato when Israel standardized on the FN FAL rifle. They were probably refurb'd when the barrel/caliber was changed. Most military rifles are set to shoot a bit high at 100 yards, nothing odd there. The ammo you're using might also account for some of the POI you are experiencing. Any Mauser sight blades should fit, changing to a taller one is a common fix. What it's worth to another collector/shooter is a tough call. The recent influx of these rifles, even though the condition is different, has reduced a large part of the market since lots uf guys just want a representative example.

[ap3572001]

I decided to put GOOD set of sights on this rifle. Who make good target sights for it? And will I have to do any drilling?Also, is there an effective way to mount a scope on it? W/o drilling? Thank You.