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    Importing surplus military rifles

    For those of you who have done it, could you please describe the procedure for importing rifle (non-restricted firearms into Canadaicon) I tried the chief firearms officer's office. What I received was anything less than clear or should I say clear as mud? Anyway, I collect Military Mausers and where I live it isn't exactly an item you can pick up at your local surplus store. So any info and personal experience would be appreciated.

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    Hi Rick ...

    Check out the services provided by Questar (click here)

    Their ad and web site will answer the great majority of your questions as to process and procedures.

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    Whats the deal with this new Canadianicon import marking I've been hearing about?

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    Nothing as yet. It MAY come into effect sometime in December, IF the CPC decides to follow through on the UN initiative the Liberals signed onto. We shall see.
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    Importing Firearms

    Thanks for the information. Much appreciated

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    Wish I could help you but I have a similar question regarding antiques and I am told that they are treated the same as modern weaponry. I find it hard to believe that a two hundred year old flintlock would be categorized this way.
    I am willing to share my crying towel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onlyoldguns View Post
    Wish I could help you but I have a similar question regarding antiques and I am told that they are treated the same as modern weaponry. I find it hard to believe that a two hundred year old flintlock would be categorized this way.
    I am willing to share my crying towel.
    I don't think they are.....

    Here's a place to follow up....

    Antique and Blackpowder Firearms Regulations (Canada)

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    I thank you for that info. I will put it to the test and let you know how I make out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skippy View Post
    Whats the deal with this new Canadianicon import marking I've been hearing about?
    Unless delayed again, supposedly December 1st, 2007 this legislation is supposed to take effect.

    Story | Windsor Star

    Legislation unfairly targets hunters' firearms

    Marty Gobin
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    Monday, November 19, 2007

    Deer season has just begun in most areas of the country.

    Some hunters are hunting in groups, driving deer with hounds. Others are silently stalking deer by themselves or waiting for their prey to come close to where they're hiding. Some will hunt for a few days on some close-to-town piece of Crown land, and others will hunt for a few weeks at their private camps.

    Regardless of how they're hunting or who they're hunting with, the group most likely to publicly respond to calls for more control over their right to hunt is getting away from it all as they exercise their ancient right to live off of the land.

    And so the Coalition for Gun Control sees its opportunity.

    While hunters pursue their prey in the wilderness, the gun control advocates pursue their hunting tools. The organization has begun a media campaign to pressure the Conservative government to enforce one of the most intrusive pieces of legislation for gun owners since the Firearms Act was passed in 1995.

    Wendy Cukier, president of the Coalition for Gun Control, has appeared on TV and in the newspapers to criticize the Conservatives for repeatedly delaying the implementation of the bill, while Public Safety Minister Stockwell Day has questioned its usefulness.

    The legislation which was passed during the previous Liberal government and which is known as Bill C-10A will require all newly manufactured or imported firearms be marked with the letters "CA 07" in addition to the pre-existing serial number. The marking requirement is in compliance with a United Nations treaty which seeks to add a country code to each firearm in an attempt to trace the illicit trafficking of firearms to war zones in third world countries.

    While the marking requirement may seem trivial to most Canadians, groups representing gun owners such as the Canadian Shooting Sports Association have pointed out that most Canadian-purchased firearms come from the United Statesicon, which will not ratify the UN treaty because, among other things, it violates the U.S. Bill of Rights.

    Most Canadian-owned firearms will therefore not be marked during the manufacturing process in the U.S., and so Canadians will have to either pay a huge premium on marking individual imported firearms or face not being able to buy any guns at all.

    Not only will the price increase discourage new hunters, but collectors will suffer, too. No exemption exists in the legislation for newly imported antiques and priceless historical war relics or lever action pieces from the Old West will be required to have a laser-etched marking added to their classic, already traceable serial number.

    And for all the trouble that hunters and collectors will be caused by the new legislation, there is no evidence to suggest it would have any use in preventing the flow of small arms to conflict zones. Anybody who has taken a shop class in high school knows that a piece of sandpaper or a file can remove something like a serial number in less than a minute from a piece of metal. China, which is one of the biggest suppliers of conflict firearms which typically consist of automatic rifles, has demonstrated it is unlikely to comply with the marking treaty.

    But hunters' and target shooters' semi-automatic, single-shot, double-barreled, lever-action, or bolt-action firearms will be subject to the marking. When was the last time a U.S. Civil War reproduction was confiscated by U.N. forces in the Somalian civil war? Has Hamas formed a wagon circle around the West Bank and armed themselves with John Wayne-style lever action rifles?

    The answer, of course, is that the idea that hunting firearms would be used in conflict zones is ridiculous. It's clear that the Coalition for Gun Control, which received $380, 000 from the Department of Justice during the previous Liberal government, is just trying to put down the Conservatives in the public eye to help their Liberal benefactors. Many speculate that an election could be called soon, and history shows us that gun control always makes a great wedge issue for a party when they have nothing of value to offer the voters. A Liberal government would be much more profitable for the Coalition than the current Conservative one.

    But Canadians should remember the last gun control fiasco. Law-abiding hunters, target shooters and collectors were unfairly targeted by legislation promoted by special interest groups such as the Coalition for Gun Control, who had a financial interest in it being passed.

    For all the billions of tax dollars wasted on the registry, and all the duck hunters who have been charged for not having a small slip of paper on them while doing what they have done as long as they can remember, we have seen an increase in illicit firearms trafficking and more dangerous streets in our cities.

    Before supporting the next politician who opens their mouth to propose another gun law be passed as a preventative measure for criminal acts, Canadians should remember one very important detail: Criminals don't obey laws.

    Marty Gobin is communications director of the Ontario Libertarian Party and a member of the Canadian Shooting Sports Association. He lives in Whitby.

    © The Windsor Star 2007
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    Just a heads up for anyone who hasn't been paying attention to a lot of threads elsewhere....

    If you are importing, there are things you can try to do to protect your valuable milsurps. Even if you're not, there's things you can do to help your friends on here who are.

    Dec 1st, 2007 - Firearms Marking Regulations (SOR/2004-275)

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