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    Sorry to be a party-pooper about the stock, but I feel there is some misapprehension about the word "original".

    The stock on the rifle is numbered to the rifle.
    The rifle was made very late in the war.
    So it looks to me like the original stock - i.e. the factory used what they had left over at a time when "normal" parts supply must have been breaking down, not what the specification said.
    In which case, replacing the (actual) original stock with another to "make it historically accurate" would actually be a historical falsification.

    "Original" is how it was actually made, not how it ought to have been. In fact, from the collecting viewpoint, if it was originally made with that stock, then that makes it rarer than an example that is "all correct per specification"!

    But that's just my opinion, FWIW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Chadwick View Post
    Sorry to be a party-pooper about the stock, but I feel there is some misapprehension about the word "original".

    The stock on the rifle is numbered to the rifle.
    The rifle was made very late in the war.
    So it looks to me like the original stock - i.e. the factory used what they had left over at a time when "normal" parts supply must have been breaking down, not what the specification said.
    In which case, replacing the (actual) original stock with another to "make it historically accurate" would actually be a historical falsification.

    "Original" is how it was actually made, not how it ought to have been. In fact, from the collecting viewpoint, if it was originally made with that stock, then that makes it rarer than an example that is "all correct per specification"!

    But that's just my opinion, FWIW.

    PAtrick
    the rifle is a Russianicon capture. after the war, the Russians took the rifles apart to safety check and repair them and they just put them back together with any parts and stocks they grabbed from bins and tables. the stock is force matched by the Russians and is not original to the rifle.
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    yeah. if it were the original there's no way i'd change it out, but it's not and i don't expect to add to the value of the rifle, but i thought it'd be nice to have a closer representation of what the rifle was like when it was produced.

    the picture that was shown earlier in the thread labeled "semi-kriegsmodell" was how the dou.45's came from the factory. the stock i have on mine is force matched and is a much earlier wartime stock. i do understand what you're saying though pat and i appreciate the feedback.

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