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    Well the M1icon came home after its holiday. 4 years ish.
    I have also bought a new camera, I keep breaking them.
    I do want to do a photo montage for you all.

    SO now is the time for me to learn how to strip the thing,
    I know very and I do mean very little about them.
    This is the first I have ever handled, us rifles are not my interest.

    Where is the best place to start.?
    If I take it to bits is there any thing I will need to be careful with?
    You can gues all my other questions i..e. what is this bit.
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    Go to garandgear dot com or the CMPicon website , both have awesome break down tutorials.

    ---------- Post added at 06:31 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:30 PM ----------

    Awesome rifle by the way. I'd take that one over the good condition ones j have any day. The fact that you know it saw action is an amazing characteristic.

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    Nice to see this one re-surface. You can also just go to Youtube and ask for stripping an M1icon. It's all there. I think if you look, we have a sticky on it too... try this one.
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    Field Manual No. 23-5 is also a useful item for M1icon Garand owners to have.

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    Great rifle!
    Thanks BAR for the video link. Now I can pass the time in case CMPicon ever ships my M-1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vintage hunter View Post
    Field Manual No. 23-5
    You understate...this is a MUST HAVE for a collector. Same as a correct era cartridge belt and suspenders and blade...1907 sling in this case...Borg-Warner clips...should I go on?

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    Now I can pass the time
    Why wait? Start memorizing now...

    Just don't assemble your sling like his or the DI will slash your bag...
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    Quote Originally Posted by browningautorifleicon View Post
    You understate...this is a MUST HAVE for a collector. Same as a correct era cartridge belt and suspenders and blade...1907 sling in this case...Borg-Warner clips...should I go on?



    Why wait? Start memorizing now...

    Just don't assemble your sling like his or the DI will slash your bag...
    I have been gathering accoutraments clips,slings,bayonets,belts and studying for months tormented by the GCAicon Journal and just now what to my wondering eyes should appear? An e-mail from CPM. It will not be long now. I hope they are able to honor my reqest for a WWII serial number. I gave up seeking a M-1 locally (could not bring myself to buy a CMPicon rifle at premium prices) . Wish me luck.

    P.S. DI might get me on somthing but not the sling. Unless I take a hit for a repro I have been practicing on an 03-A3.
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    I have a repro on my 7.62 shooter M1icon. That way I don't worry. I have a 1918 on my 3xx xxx LL...and the 1917 blade for it too.

    DI will get you for forearm not level at the shoulder arms. Carrying your rifle like your daddy's shotgun...Bouncing while you're marching...
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    Parts list for SA 1005416 October 1942

    Might be a little help?

    Component Listing for M1icon Garand - MFG: SA Serial #: 1005416
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    MFG Component Drawing Number Heat Lot/Type Date Range Serial# Range Notes
    SA Aperature B8868-1 Type 3-1 February/1940 to December/1957 28000 - 6100500 Early version. Rounded ramp shoulders below aperature disk. Narrow tracks (0.065 inches wide).
    SA Aperature B8868-1 Type 3-2 February/1940 to December/1957 28000 - 6100500 Late version. Squared ramp shoulders below aperature disk. Wide tracks (0.085 inches wide). Edges of aperture disk smoothly finished.
    SA Barrel D35448 N/A July/1940 to December/1957 50001 - 6100500 Generally dated to within 3 months of Receiver manufacture date.
    SA Bolt D28287-12SA A8W November/1942 to November/1942 940251 - 1008899
    SA Bolt D28287-12SA B10<> March/1942 to December/1944 489217 - 3359159 <> Indicates 8620 steel.
    SA Bolt D28287-12SA B3 March/1942 to December/1944 498217 - 3359159
    SA Bolt D28287-12SA B4A November/1942 to December/1942 940251 - 1090310
    SA Bolt D28287-12SA B4B March/1942 to December/1944 498217 - 3359159
    SA Bolt D28287-12SA O11A<> March/1942 to December/1944 498217 - 3359159 <> Indicates 8620 steel.
    SA Bolt D28287-12SA RE4E March/1942 to December/1944 498217 - 3359159
    SA Bolt D28287-12SA RE5C January/1942 to December/1942 429812 - 1090310
    SA Bolt D28287-12SA S-04<> November/1942 to December/1944 940251 - 3359159 <> Indicates 8620 steel.
    SA Bolt D28287-12SA S-11<> October/1942 to December/1942 872344 - 1090310 <> Indicates 8620 steel.
    SA Bolt D28287-12SA S-A3<> March/1942 to December/1944 498217 - 3359159 <> Indicates 8620 steel.
    SA Bolt D28287-12SA W10A March/1942 to December/1944 498217 - 3359159
    SA Bullet Guide B8875 Type 2B August/1941 to March/1943 300001 - 1400000 Forged and milled, wide slot. Not marked.
    SA Buttplate Assembly C64283 Type 2 October/1940 to December/1957 70001 - 6100500 Cap, 12 squares in vertical row intersecting screw hole.
    SA Clip Ejector C46018 N/A January/1936 to December/1957 1 - 6100500 Early were blued, late were parkerized.
    SA Clip Latch C46011 Type 1B July/1940 to March/1944 50001 - 2720000 Rounded front end at top, unmarked
    SA Clip Latch Pin N/A N/A January/1936 to December/1957 1 - 6100500 3.280 inches long,head is 0.155 inches in diameter and 0.065 inches high. Opposite end slightly rounded. Body of pin is 0.119 inches in diameter.
    SA Clip Latch Spring N/A N/A January/1936 to December/1957 1 - 6100500 0.03 inch steel wire, 5 coils, outside diameter 0.26 inch. White finish is original, Parkerized indicates refinishing.
    SA Elevating Pinion N/A Type 3 August/1942 to June/1945 800000 - 3800000 Long with 8-36 NF thread, with locking bar.
    SA Elevation Knob N/A Type 1C September/1942 to October/1945 850000 - 3888081 Knurled rim, closed arrowheads.
    SA Extractor N/A N/A January/1936 to December/1957 1 - 6100500 Blued or Parkerized during WWII, all Parkerized after WWII.
    SA Extractor Spring and Plunger B8886 N/A January/1936 to December/1957 1 - 6100500 Early may be blued.
    SA Firing Pin B8879 Type 2 December/1941 to December/1957 425001 - 6100500 Half round cross section.
    SA Follower and Slide N/A Type 2C July/1942 to October/1943 710001 - 2000000 Marked with "11".
    SA Follower Arm B8869 Type 4 July/1941 to October/1945 290001 - 3888999 No bevel, rounded follower arm pin lugs. May ahve raised "S" marking as well as number stamped indicating drop forge used.
    SA Follower Arm Pin A13667 Type 2 December/1941 to October/1945 429001 - 3888999 0.15 in rebate at end, 0.07 in at top.
    SA Follower Rod C64331 Type 4 February/1941 to January/1944 190001 - 2500000 Stamped sheet metal. Short fork plate riveted. No marking.
    SA Front Hand Guard C64245 N/A August/1940 to December/1957 50001 - 6100500
    SA Front Site B147427 Type 3A July/1940 to December/1957 50001 - 6100500 Between 0.625 and 0.687 inches wide at blades. Smaller dimension usually associated with WWII.
    SA Front Site Screw N/A Type 2 July/1940 to February/1943 50001 - 1360000 Rebated Allen socked head, used with seal.
    SA Gas Cylinder D35449 Type 2B August/1941 to May/1943 315001 - 1600000 .50 inch front sight base, flat top on rear ring, unmarked.
    SA Gas Cylinder Lock B147426 Type 1 July/1940 to March/1945 50000 - 3592000 Front face chamfered,no hump, unmarked. 1.225 - 1.335 inches high. Unmarked.
    SA Gas Cylinder Lock Screw(Plug) B147428 Type 1 July/1940 to January/1944 50000 - 2500000 Single slot, no valve/poppet. Unmarked.
    SA Hammer C46008-3 SA Type 2C June/1942 to June/1943 680001 - 1630000 Drawing number on face, late hooks, no tooling hole.
    SA Hammer Pin A13668 N/A January/1936 to December/1957 1 - 6100500
    SA Hammer Spring B8887 N/A January/1936 to November/1957 1 - 6100500 20 coils
    SA Hammer Spring Housing B8883 Type 2 July/1940 to December/1957 50001 - 6100500 45 degree slant cut at ends of safety slot
    SA Hammer Spring Plunger B8880 Type 1 January/1936 to October/1945 1 - 3888081 1.542 inches long, "winged" head, 0.459 inches wide.
    SA Handguard Clip N/A Type 3 August/1942 to December/1957 800001 - 6100500 Stamped steel, flat profile, no groove.
    SA Handguard Ferrule N/A Type 2 June/1940 to December/1957 50001 - 6100500 Lip protruding .06 inches from rear barrel hole.
    SA Handguard Liner B8893 Type 3 July/1940 to December/1957 50001 - 6100500 Unmarked. Front hole is .350 inches from edge, rear hole is .490 inches from edge. Notch is .70 inches wide by .15 inches deep.
    SA Lower Band C46000 Type 2 October/1940 to June/1943 70001 - 1650000 Stamped arched profile with no groove or scallops. Unmarked.
    SA Lower Band Pin N/A Type 1 January/1936 to December/1951 1 - 3888999 Solid pin.
    SA Operating Rod D35382 6 SA 5 October/1942 to December/1943 940001 - 2250000 Straight bolt lug, no radius cut, curved side, marking on bottom
    SA Operating Rod Catch Assembly C46027 Type 2 July/1942 to December/1957 700001 - 6100500 Unmarked. Right fork 0.10 in wide and Left fork 0.07 in wide, width at accelerator rivet 0.79 in.
    SA Operating Rod Spring SA14675/B147658 N/A December/1940 to December/1957 160001 - 6100500 Round cross section.
    SA Rear Hand Guard C46024 Type 2 March/1941 to December/1957 200001 - 6100500 Operating rod clearance cut on right rear.
    SA Rear Sight Base C46001 Type 2 October/1940 to December/1957 75001 - 6100500 No "C46001" stamped on the flat underside, machined with a "squared" off area behind hole for elevation/windage knob shaft. No concentric ring around hole for elevation pinion/windage knob assembly.
    SA Rear Sight Cover B8872 Type 2 December/1940 to December/1957 95001 - 6100500 No drawing number marked. Reinforcing indentations on top and edges.
    SA Rear Sight Lock Nut N/A Type 2B November/1942 to January/1944 1000001 - 2500000 Locking bar, long pinion, 8-36NF thread, with rounded ends and rounded binding ridges.
    SA Receiver D28291-17 N/A February/1942 to April/1943 490001 - 1500000
    SA Safety C46015-9SA Type 3B August/1942 to October/1943 750001 - 2000000 Rounded upper side and top, tooling hole
    SA Stacking Swivel B8891 N/A January/1936 to December/1957 1 - 6100500 Up to serial# 20000 were marked "B8891".
    SA Stacking Swivel Screw N/A N/A January/1936 to December/1957 1 - 6100500
    SA Stock D35647 Type 2C November/1942 to October/1943 950001 - 2092000 .81/.81 butt stock holes, 1.75 inch channel, Straight clip latch relief, S.A./E.McF.(with .437 Ordnance Wheel,.188 Ordnance Wheel on bottom of pistol grip)
    SA Stock Ferrule Assembly C40613 Type 3C March/1942 to December/1957 510001 - 6100500 2 piece stamped steel/grazed construction. 0.190 inch hole at bottom of U shaped channel.
    SA Trigger C46020 Type 2 November/1940 to December/1957 80001 - 6100500 No tooling hole. No markings.
    SA Trigger Guard C46025 Type 1G December/1941 to July/1944 425001 - 3000000 Milled, rear hole. May show various inspectors numbers or initials. No Markings.
    SA Trigger Housing D28290-8-SA Type 7 October/1942 to December/1942 880001 - 1010000 Cloverleaf hole, pad width 0.156 inch.
    SA Trigger Pin A13669 N/A January/1936 to December/1957 1 - 6100500

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    Quote Originally Posted by browningautorifleicon View Post
    I think if you look, we have a sticky on it too... try this one.

    We have lots of appropriate stickies on site!

    The FM mentioned above:

    FM23-5, U.S. RIFLE CALIBER .30 MANUAL for M1icon Garand Service Rifle

    And:

    M1 Garand Handling (Stripping & Assembling)

    How to remove rear guard "VIDEO"

    M1 Garand Lesson Bolt assembly "Video"

    etc.

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