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    ? Difference between WWI and WWII 1911 holster - how to ID ?

    I have a 1911 holster with a date that so far is unreadable. The manufacturer stamp is Clinton and the inspector initials are C.S. The date looks like it might be 1918, but the last number could be a 3,6 or 9 as only the bottom quarter is showing. Is there a way to identify when it was made from the details (cut, stitching, US mark, etc.)? Thanks for any assistance.
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    I believe most leather manufacturers with inspectors initials are WWI vintage.

    Here's a list of observed holster manufacturers I found on the internet a while back and 'Clinton 1918 F.W.T.' was listed. I'd bet yours is dated 1918 (?)

    - A.L.P. CO. (1918 J.J.M.)
    - BANNERMAN (Francis Bannerman & Co.) (1916)
    - BLOOMBERG LEATHER GOODS (8-51 M.R.T.)
    - BRAUER BROS. MFG. (Brauer Bros. Mfg. Co., St. Louis, MO) (WW II)
    - BUCHEIMER (Bucheimer oval logo) (MRT) (part # 7791466) (DEC 1964) (1963)
    - BOLEN LEA PROD (Bolen Leather Products) (part # 7791466)
    - BOLEN LEATHER PRODUCTS (part # 7791466)
    - BOYT (E.T.G.) (42) (44) (45)
    - CATHEY ENTREPRISES INC. (Part Number: P/N 7791466 Contract # DAAA09-87-C-1158)
    - CATHEY ENTERPRISES INC. (P/N 57311 6086011 Cathey Enterprises Inc. 9MM RH) (USN flap)
    - CLINTON (1918 F.W.T.)
    - CRAIGHEAD (WW II)
    - CRUMP (B.T. Crump Co. Inc.) (WW II)
    - ENGER-KRESS (1942) (44)
    - FINK
    - F.M. HOYT SHOE CO. (Manchester, N.H.) (1918) (HOYT 1918 J.C.Y.)
    - FODSOM (64)
    - G. & K. (Graton & Knight) (1918) (W.J.D.)
    - G.P. & S. (WW II)
    - GRATON AND KNIGHT CO. (1943) (G.W.R )
    - H McM Co. (W G)
    - HARPHAM BROTH (WW II)
    - H.H. HEISER (Herman H. Heiser) (H.H. Heiser 1918 M.R.T.)
    - HILL COUNTRY LEATHER (Formerly CATHEY ENTERPRISES) (part # 7791466)
    - HUNTER CORP. (part # 7791466)
    - K.B. H.A.B. (WW II)
    - MILWAUKEE SADDLERY CO. (1942) (1944) (1945) (founded by Carl Swenson in 1924)
    - MOSSER (JOESEPH H. MOSSER) (1942)
    - PERKINS & CAMPBELL (1917) (1917 with an arrow)
    - ROCK ISLAND ARSENAL
    - S-B CO. (WW I – WW II)
    - SEARS SADDLERY (UNMARKED) (SEARS 1942)(SEARS 44)
    - WALSH (Walsh 45)
    - WARREN LEATHER GOODS CO. (U.S.) (1918 L.A.O.)(1918 J.A.O.) (1944) (1917 L.A.O.)
    - WESTERN MFG. CO. (U.S. WESTERN MFG. CO. 44)

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    - BOYT (USMC marked 1943) (1945) (U.S. Boyt 43) (Boyt oval logo, inked Mar 10, 1953)
    - ENGER-KRESS (U.S. Enger-Kress) (44)
    - SEARS SADDLERY (Sears) (SEARS 44)

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    WOW! What great information. Is there a reference book with that information. I have the Collectors Guide by Charles W. Clawson, however it doesn't cover leather goods. Thank you.

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