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    Help wanted to identify this 1907

    Anyone have any info on this, arrived the other day i bought it on line, bit of a drunken purchase (too much stella artois when on line).
    Started life as a 1915 willkinson, no other or later dates, blade is 8" and looks like the muzzle ring has been slightly enlarged.
    Have shown it next to the Owen sub machine gun and a standard 1907 to compare.
















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    Looks to be an original No.1 bayonet that has been converted into the profile of a No.5 (the 8 inch blade and the bowie style tip is pure No.5), probably a WW2 era conversion.
    Could be an early Britishicon experimental/trials bayonet in the No.5 style, or one of the many shortened Indian conversions which they liked to do on the good old No.1 bayonet.
    Skennertonicon does have an Indian version listed as I57 which has had the MRD slightly enlarged to 17mm, don't ask me why. Its an unusual one. Cheers.

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    Looks to me like a classic case of a man with a broken Patt '07, bayonet, a file and a hacksaw

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Laidlericon View Post
    Looks to me like a classic case of a man with a broken Patt '07, bayonet, a file and a hacksaw
    After sobering up the morning after I thought that may be the case, but doesn,t explain the enlarged muzzle ring, was hoping for some german stamps so i could match this with the SMLE on the Enfield forum, but no stamps to be found.

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    The absence of a frog stud doesn't seem like something that would have been done in service. The frog appears to be Britishicon, by D.R. Melbourne Ltd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marysdad View Post
    The absence of a frog stud doesn't seem like something that would have been done in service. The frog appears to be Britishicon, by D.R. Melbourne Ltd.
    Couple of pics shows the the locket, and no sign of ever having a frog stud. The locket and the chape are the same make (GF).
    After catching up on lost sleep and on a closer inspection has had paint on the scabard in the past (olive drab).



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    It could be one of the later Indian 07 variations th eV or VI is supposed ot have a bowie type blade. Interested in why you wanted Germanicon marks on a UKicon/commonwealth blade?

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    Thanks for the info Carl,

    Reference to the Germanicon stamps was just a joke regarding a rifle under question in the Enfield forum, as Peter and I have posted on the thread.

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    Going by the markings on the scabbard, it was made by the same manufacturer that made the US M1917 2nd type scabbard. Note the same GF in oval stamp in photo attached. The Indians were also particularly fond of the leather slide-on combination frog/belt hanger arrangement - they had ample supplies of good leather available to use. Cheers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shippingsteel View Post
    Looks to be an original No.1 bayonet that has been converted into the profile of a No.5
    I think the same...

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