Remove and Replace Stock Escutcheon

[BrianQ]

There are 2 versions of these splines.

There are more than two version. In fact there almost as many variations as there were manufacturers.

[Hercules Powder]

I don't know how to link a previous thread from 11-3 to this so I will cut and paste.

My reason for asking about tap and die size was to avoid having to change the Escutcheon Nut and not contend with the issues mentioned is this thread.

Recoil Plate SCREW And ESCUTCHEON
I have a escutcheon with messed up and/or dirty threads. Before I spin it loose in the stock with the screw stuck in it what size tap and die are need to chase the threads on the Recoil Plate Screw and Escutcheon Nut?

Reply from CrossedCannons
One the folks at Home Depot never heard of. It's .200-40 NS thread. Probably cheaper to replace the screw and nut.

Just a option I will try first.

John

[painter777]

There are more than two version. In fact there almost as many variations as there were manufacturers.

As I stated I was a bit rushed.
I should have said..... 2 versions I've most commonly worked with.
Thx BQ,

Charlie

[G26ster]

I've only been working on carbines for about 10 years so I am not your best authority, but if you refinished the stock it may be a very nice and relatively valuable stock, but it is no longer collector grade.

I don't know what is considered "collector" grade for a stock. All I did was clean the grime off it and apply some fresh BLO. Refinished was my poor choice of words. Perhaps even that lowers value, but the carbine is a shooter, and while correct with parts, they are replacement parts I put on a mixmaster. So right now it's about 95% Rock-ola.

That said, I appreciate everyone's advice. All great! When my new screw and escutcheon arrive, I will try the new screw in the existing escutcheon first. If still loose, then I will carefully remove the old one if possible. If I have difficulty, I will STOP before I ruin anything. I'll keep this thread updated with results. Larry

[G26ster]

UPDATE: Well the new screw was no help. It appears that the escutcheon threads are so stripped, that when tapping the screw from above, it just slides right through the nut. I have been soaking the nut with Kroil for hours, trimmed the wood around the nut carefully, and tried using a punch from above around the edges of the nut to no avail. As promised, I'm stopping before I do any damage to the stock. Basically, nothing will screw into the nut without slipping right though.

Perhaps I need a larger punch from above, that will cover the entire top of the escutcheon, rather than using the smaller punch in a clock-like manner, but I don't know the size. I'm open to any and all suggestions. Larry

[frankderrico]

Larry, try a punch a little bigger than the screw. One that won't go into the screw hole and get stuck. Try tapping it out from the top. Dill out a piece of 1" pine just bigger than the outside diameter of the nut and clamp it over the bottom of the nut so you don't splt the wood around the nut. Use a soft jaw clamp. It might take a good whack to get it started, but try a coulple of gentle taps first, it might be all you need to get it going. If you wait I'm sure you will get some other suggestuions. But that is what I would try. Good luck.....Frank

[INLAND44]

How about tapping the ferrule with the next larger size (from the bottom) and rigging a simple puller (hole in a piece of wood with a washer under the screw head) to get it out? Might have to drill it first. Again, be SURE to relieve the stock, as artfully as you can, around the ferrule so it won't chip a divot out of it on the way out.

[G26ster]

UPDATE/UPDATE: IT'S OUT!!! It was the "one good whack" that was needed, which I feared doing all day. Came out clean, NO DAMAGE to the stock. The new one went in quite easily by screwing it up thru the recoil plate. Thanks for all the input! Larry

[G26ster]

UPDATE/UPDATE: IT'S OUT!!! It was the "one good whack" that was needed, which I feared doing all day. Came out clean, NO DAMAGE to the stock. The new one went in quite easily by screwing it up thru the recoil plate. Thanks for all the input! Larry

[frankderrico]

Larry, sometimes you have sweat alittle, and cross your fingers. Glad it worked for you!.....Frank

P.S. how about some pics of the finished job. We love pics