They're here! Reproduction No32 scopes.

[limpetmine]

Unless the drums are for looks alone, and may be a fixed range scope.

[Peter Laidler]

I thought about that - but how'd you collimate it or even zero it to the rifle. I just think, not having seen one, that they've used some odd thread form on the lead screw and can't get it to drop from 10 to 0 so at 3 it stays. Probably wrong until we see one.

Any idear RP?

[Beerhunter]

In my opinion, with those markings, they aren't reproductions - they're FAKES!

No ifs buts or maybes. They are designed to deceive.

[enfield303t]

In my opinion, with those markings, they aren't reproductions - they're FAKES!

No ifs buts or maybes. They are designed to deceive.

I couldn't agree more! This is the kind of "stuff" that drives me nuts, mind you somedays that isn't a very far trip.

[Peter Laidler]

I agree but being the devils advocate, they'll always be easy(?) to spot and think of this..... More Lee Enfield shooters will be able to make up a half decent look-a-like and partake in shooting to keep the name alive. That MUST be a good thing. And there's only a finite amount of the real McCoy

[breakeyp]

I'd be happier if they had no markings at all so there is no way they could be mistaken for the real deal.

A blank slate will only give the fakers a canvas to add unique/expensive markings or match an incomplete unit and create future problems.

[Roger Payne]

I thought about that - but how'd you collimate it or even zero it to the rifle. I just think, not having seen one, that they've used some odd thread form on the lead screw and can't get it to drop from 10 to 0 so at 3 it stays. Probably wrong until we see one.

Any idear RP?

DPL,
I really couldn't say for sure -- have only seen a couple of the early ones that turned up at Ciney last year, & then only from the outside. However, I would strongly suspect they may have goofed somewhere in the reverse engineering process - perhaps as you intimate &, say, they don't have the right adjustment on the lead screw, for example. Issuing this statement in the description could be a way of covering their posteriors. Why would one "make 'em wrong"??

ATBDRP

[grant580]

In my opinion, with those markings, they aren't reproductions - they're FAKES!

No ifs buts or maybes. They are designed to deceive.

It does plainly state in Numerich's ad that they are reproductions. I am just glad they are now available as a cheaper alternative to the real thing

[Beerhunter]

It does plainly state in Numerich's ad that they are reproductions. I am just glad they are now available as a cheaper alternative to the real thing

And when they are sold on sans the Numrich blurb?

If they are designed to be reproductions they should not fake the markings not leave them blank (for the later addition of fake markings) but clearly mark them as reproductions.

BTW don't get me wrong, products like these and Roger Payne's mounts (I have one on my own No4.T) will help more people get their No4Ts back to a shooting rifle and I applaud that. I just ask why the manufacturer added the fake markings if they are not designed to deceive.

[Badger]

A blank slate will only give the fakers a canvas to add unique/expensive markings or match an incomplete unit and create future problems.

That's a good point that I hadn't thought about myself...

Regards,
Doug