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    Looking to restore 1942 no. 4 mk1* long branch please help

    As you can see, the gun was stripped down to just the hardware when i came across this. I'm interested in refinishing the gun, but i do not know where to start. I'm looking to make this gun look original, while not hurting the value. I've read that the original gun was either painted, blued, or parkerized. I do not know which one to do. Everything mechanical seems to be here and working. But i will need to buy the stock and foregrip. Also, if anyone knows a ballpark value of the gun, please help me out. In need of your help!
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    Oh my.
    When/if you get done, the sum will be well in excess of its value, given all that you need, backsight, butt, forestock, handguards, bands, butt plate. But then, labors of love seldom stand the balance sheet test.
    There may be more value in parting out the parts you have than restoring it. It looks to have some rust, so it will have the "refinished" moniker.
    You might want to get a total price on the parts you need before you start. Best of luck.

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    The bits and pieces are probably available from the guys right here if you dig. But like he said, it is going to cost a bit...
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    I too am in the process of rebuilding my first military surplus rifle. It is also Long Branch. I'm basically in the same boat as you because some one decided to mutilate the stock and forearm as well as lose all the parts associated with the front and rear sights, most all the small parts and the hand guards. I'm finding the search for parts to be quite entertaining to say the least. Springfield Sporters, eBay and Numrich have been very productive so far. As for the worth of the rifle when finished I really haven't given it much thought. I'm doing it because I like bolt action rifles in general and Enfields in particular and I like to tinker with mechanical things. I will most likely never sell it.
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    Longbranch "rebuild"

    Fellows: I purchased a LB back in the late 70's from a neighbor who had it. The stock had been chopped up but all the metal was there and everything matched...including the magazine. Not knowing a thing about the Enfields I cleaned it up installed a new stock and shot it. Dont remember how it shot but I got the usual case bulges which resulted in very short case life as I reloaded for the gun. Anyways I decided to "repark" it myself and after tearing down EVERY screw, spring, etc, I reparked it myself. It came out a nice green park color. Wheither or not it matched the original I didnt know. While putting it together I decided to set the barrel back 1 turn and recut the oversized chamber to something smaller using a Clymer finishing reamer. I got everything back together and found the headspace at Max (.074ish). Project stopped and the gun was put into the back of the closet.....

    UNTIL I head about the Vintage Sniper Rifle Matches that the CMPicon is now conducting.....

    Well out came the Enfield...Ihavent slugged the bore but the 2 rifle bore looks good. I just have to do something about the HS. Im temeped to get a shim silver soldered on to the bolt face BUT then I have the issue of firing pin protrutuion AND ensureing that the bolt head "clocks" to the body properly.

    The guns back in the closet.

    If your interest in reparking I maybe able to help you out although its been 30 years since I did mine.

    In the mean time I'll keep thinking about a Vintage Sniper Rifle...I got a M96 I could also use.

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    Here is a full restore I did for a customer. 1942 Lend Lease. Take your time,

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptf18 View Post
    Fellows: I purchased a LB back in the late 70's from a neighbor who had it. The stock had been chopped up but all the metal was there and everything matched...including the magazine. Not knowing a thing about the Enfields I cleaned it up installed a new stock and shot it. Dont remember how it shot but I got the usual case bulges which resulted in very short case life as I reloaded for the gun. Anyways I decided to "repark" it myself and after tearing down EVERY screw, spring, etc, I reparked it myself. It came out a nice green park color. Wheither or not it matched the original I didnt know. While putting it together I decided to set the barrel back 1 turn and recut the oversized chamber to something smaller using a Clymer finishing reamer. I got everything back together and found the headspace at Max (.074ish). Project stopped and the gun was put into the back of the closet.....

    UNTIL I head about the Vintage Sniper Rifle Matches that the CMPicon is now conducting.....

    Well out came the Enfield...Ihavent slugged the bore but the 2 rifle bore looks good. I just have to do something about the HS. Im temeped to get a shim silver soldered on to the bolt face BUT then I have the issue of firing pin protrutuion AND ensureing that the bolt head "clocks" to the body properly.

    The guns back in the closet.

    If your interest in reparking I maybe able to help you out although its been 30 years since I did mine.

    In the mean time I'll keep thinking about a Vintage Sniper Rifle...I got a M96 I could also use.
    Use the "O" ring method of fire forming new brass and you will not need to worry about long head space with the 303. Just do a search on O ring fire form on this forum, then neck size to reload. You may also have to use a cast bullet as a lot of the 2 grove barrels will go .317 to .320 in the groove. It is called a Christmas Tree bullet as the driving bands in the mold get bigger with each band. You can also use a thin jacket 180 grain round nose bullet. give it a full load to upset it in the bore for a good fit.

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    Hello

    Two of my three Lee-Enfield Rifles were originally gotten by me in a "sporterised" condition. My first is a 1942 Savage No.4 Mk.I* that I bought for $100 in Anchorage. I know I spent at least that much getting it back together. My next was my 1940 Birmingham Small Arms No.1 Mk.III that I got for $70 and spent at least twice that finding all the odds and sods to piece it together.

    Are they original and worth much?...of course not, but I had fun "salvaging" them. They are perfect for using for reenacting and shooting without worrying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ptf18 View Post
    Fellows: I purchased a LB back in the late 70's from a neighbor who had it. The stock had been chopped up but all the metal was there and everything matched...including the magazine. Not knowing a thing about the Enfields I cleaned it up installed a new stock and shot it. Dont remember how it shot but I got the usual case bulges which resulted in very short case life as I reloaded for the gun. Anyways I decided to "repark" it myself and after tearing down EVERY screw, spring, etc, I reparked it myself. It came out a nice green park color. Wheither or not it matched the original I didnt know. While putting it together I decided to set the barrel back 1 turn and recut the oversized chamber to something smaller using a Clymer finishing reamer. I got everything back together and found the headspace at Max (.074ish). Project stopped and the gun was put into the back of the closet.....

    UNTIL I head about the Vintage Sniper Rifle Matches that the CMPicon is now conducting.....

    Well out came the Enfield...Ihavent slugged the bore but the 2 rifle bore looks good. I just have to do something about the HS. Im temeped to get a shim silver soldered on to the bolt face BUT then I have the issue of firing pin protrutuion AND ensureing that the bolt head "clocks" to the body properly.

    The guns back in the closet.

    If your interest in reparking I maybe able to help you out although its been 30 years since I did mine.

    In the mean time I'll keep thinking about a Vintage Sniper Rifle...I got a M96 I could also use.



    I'm not very familiar with the process of "reparkering" it. I have a very faint idea. Could you tell me a little bit about this process.. That may be the direction that i choose.

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    If I was you Waldon. I'd send the steelwork that you have to a well known and good dealer and have him bead blast and phosphate it all. At that stage you can have it painted in the (UK/Britishicon spec)satin black paint or left phosphated - it's up to you.

    At that point you can ask the dealer to quote you for JUST the remaining parts you need to complete it so that YOU can do the rest of the work. Or as him to supply and fit so that you get the complete rifle back, as Factory Thorough Repaired 'new'. Maybe BDLicon in SC could comment here. He has those facilities.

    I wouldn't worry too much about the slight rust and pitting. We had thousands like that but once they'd been through 'the system' they'd last out your lifetime

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