Where to find ROSS .280 bullets?

[betamax]

Members,

At some point here I will need to purchase bullets. No Clue. Never shot it.
I have a ROSS .280.
Where do you suggest? Are they easy to obtain?
Is a ROSS .280 the same as any .280? Do I have to consider the cartridge rim?
How much do they go for?

Suggestions?

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[wiley-14]

Soft Point Spitzer Jacketed Bullet .287" 154 grain
Soft Point Spitzer Jacketed Bullet .287" 130 grain
They have brass, too
Wiley

[smellie]

This is the thing I do not understand: EVERY .280 Ross cartridge I have sports a bullet in the .283" - .285" diameter, with nearly all being right at .284", which means that they can have a regular 7mm projectile substituted for them. This includes King's Norton, Winchester, Remington and Kynoch (ICI).

I have NO idea where the idea of a .287" bullet for the .280 might have come from, but even a full box of George Gibbs ammo, made by King's Norton, has the lesser diameter bullets.

On the other hand, I also have a single round of the .28" Ross-Eley experimental round. The bullet on this one mikes .287", according to my little friend Mr. Moore & Wright.

Nice thing is that if one is using flatbase bullets and nice American gilding-metal jackets, one should be able to count upon a certain degree of obturation, given that one kicks said projectile solidly enough on its little flat base.

Would someone who knows this cartridge better than I do kindly elucidate?
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[betamax]

Thank you,

Price is not bad $34 for 100
I will order some

[Ax.303]

I checked some old Kynoch I have. It measures .285 right at the brass. The late great Ellwood Epps loaded me up some cartridges about 10 years ago. When I went to shoot them off a short time ago I realized that all the necks where split. I pulled all the bullets and they are all .286. The RRS shows the .280 bullet at .286-.287.
I read an article on loading for the M-10 .280 in one of the rags awhile back. The guy was using .284 bullets and was not impressed with the accuracy of a rifle with a good bore. I doubt if the rifle was the problem. I also hear the bore can vary a bit.
That being said, I tried the old how does it fit in the bore, with a 160 grn .284 Nosler on my .280 and it looked pretty tight.
So if all you have is .284`s. Try them and see how it shoots.

[Ax.303]

willey-14
For some reason I do not see where the bullets and brass are for sale in your post.
Could someone post this please?

[smellie]

I went through their pages; Ross .280 brass is on Page 4 of their .20 - .28 rass listing.

Three dollars and ninety-four cents American per casing! Someone please pass the Cordite: my heart just stopped!

If you have rifle and the dies, and access to a small lathe, you can turn your own brass out easily and quickly from .300 H&H. The base is the same size as the rim of a .303 or of a .280 Ross, so you're okay there. What WILL mess you up is the headspacing belt on the Holland and Holland casing. So you full-length size the H&H brass in the .280 Ross die, then trim to length and load up. But FIRST, make up a spud and chuck the brass into the lathe and trim off about HALF of the thickness of the belt. This should allow the case to get into the chamber and also should centre it up nicely. When it makes it all the way into the full-length sizing die, you know you have trimmed enough.

Now you load and fireform with a medium charge.

Takes a bit of time but it costs about a fifth as much.

Hope this helps.
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