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    Help Identifying my Enfield

    Hey Everyone,

    New to the site, I was military & civillian trained armorer & have been building, repairing, & perfecting the AR-Rifle Platform in all calibers, including the new gas piston operating systems in all calibers. I am also new to the Surplus Rifle scene although I have been collecting & storing them for years. I wanted to see if someone could help me identify one of my Enfields. It appears to be new, unfired, and numbers matching including the magazine. I would like to know as much about it as possible and know that this is the site to come to for knowledge.

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    Your rifle was made at R.O.F. - Maltby (Royal Ordnance Factory - Maltby) in 1942. Maltby is in Yorkshire, Englandicon.

    The model designation is No.4 Mark 1

    The rifle rear sight was made by BSA (Birmingham Small Arms) and is the Mark 1. Probably fitted post WW2.

    Your rifle has an early button cocking piece.

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    It sems to have the metal parts covered in a paint-like coating, which could either be "paint" or a harder baked on finish known as Suncorite. (Which numeric "type" I forget!) This indicates it's seen post WWII rework of at least some degree. The rear sight is another indication of post WWII attention, as noted by Amatikuluicon above.

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    Pardon the intrusion, guys, but is that rear sight not Long Branch?

    The coating almost looks like dried-on OIL of some kind, almost as if the poor thing was painted with boiled linseed oilicon..... or sunflower oil..... and left to stand. No matter, I am sure it will respond to Superfine steel wool and a mild solvent. Sure preserves things, though! Nice rifle under all that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smellie View Post
    Pardon the intrusion, guys, but is that rear sight not Long Branch?
    It looks like just a "B", not the intermingled "LB".

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    Thanks for the responses so far and I just wanted to ask some more specific questions concerning the rifle. Since the receiver is not marked on the left side with model number & date, is there anyway to determine year it was manufactured? Could this have been a war or post war production rifle that was then put in storage? It appears to be unfired and everything is in excellent condition. Also, could anyone give me a rough estimate of the value of this rifle?
    Ball Park is all I need for insurance reasons.

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    As I said earlier your rifle was made in 1942. This is based on where your serial number fits in the production range.

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    Just out of interest Thalomid, and beyond the obvious, what's with the helmet in the background?

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