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    questionable presentation carbine

    came across this on gun broker, the shading around the Q-EX stamping looks funny. whats the opinions ?
    take a look at picture #'s 19,31,35,36,37

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    Well, I am certainly not the expert here, but my BS detector is beeping. Amazingly crisp markings for 6+ decades. Fascinating discolored area on the receiver where the original markings would have been. Amazing bit of metallurgy that surface marks magically disappear at the discolored area.............only to reappear on the other side. Interesting change of lighting source to mess up the pix of the receiver...........neat how the inner and outer portions of the barrel band are so flush with each other, almost as if something had been cut off....................................

    Beautiful wood stock, though--it would be awesome in a sporter carbine.

    My $0.02--someone is being taken to the cleaners.

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    You may want to look at who had bid on it and ask them what they think if it. If Marcus has bid on it I bet he would think it is real.
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    Brian, someone we both know said its REAL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave-In-Maine View Post
    Well, I am certainly not the expert here, but my BS detector is beeping. Amazingly crisp markings for 6+ decades. Fascinating discolored area on the receiver where the original markings would have been. Amazing bit of metallurgy that surface marks magically disappear at the discolored area.............only to reappear on the other side. Interesting change of lighting source to mess up the pix of the receiver...........neat how the inner and outer portions of the barrel band are so flush with each other, almost as if something had been cut off....................................

    Beautiful wood stock, though--it would be awesome in a sporter carbine.

    My $0.02--someone is being taken to the cleaners.

    Ditto.

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    It looks good to me but what do I know?

    Dang! That is gorgeous wood!
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    Quote Originally Posted by usgicollector View Post
    You may want to look at who had bid on it and ask them what they think if it. If Marcus has bid on it I bet he would think it is real.
    Dave
    Looks like he has placed two bids on it.

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    I am getting a couple expensive carbines in the next 2 weeks so I'm not going to be bidding on this one, but I don't think $4k is out of the Question.
    CCNL #110 has Q-EX 10 as the COM and it is almost exactly like this one. The barrel on Q-EX 10 is a RO and the front sight is a N,and 10 is blued but that's about it for differences. There are some QHMC traits that are specific to them and the one in the auction has them.
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    Q-ex

    my speculation is it is purely a take home of a leftover presentation receiver that was not used-right, wrong or indifferent feel that is all it is. The other Q-EX guns according to "War Baby" were all blued except one and were numbered from 1-25. It may be someones garage dream. I have every part to replicate it new same as it is so am sure others do also. All you need is a receiver and the parts. Roger who wrote George's bible told me to never buy a presentation gun with out provenance. I have a lunch bucket saginaw, all new mint parts. Serial and name was ground off. This gun has that problem also. The law states if serial has been removed is contraband. This is easy fix though. Law also states you can apply for a new serial if it has been removed. But you have to apply for new to be legal. They can't afford to prove it was something else.

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    +1 wtmr. The pictures raise too many questions, the wood notwithstanding.
    Sorry but, no documentation. no provenance, = no sale. Respectfully

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