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    Carbine Ammo

    Waitng to pick up my first M1icon carbine, and would like to know if commercial ammo is ok to shoot in these guns? Or could it damage the op rod like a Garand? Thanks.
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    Commercial ammo is fine in the carbine. Some better then others. Most do not use steel cased ammo in their carbines to stop possible damage to them and the powder is quite dirty.

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    I used the "American Eagle" and the PRVI both with good success

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    My local Walmart almost always (now) has Remington UMC which I've had very good experience with, shoots fine, not too dirty (I shoot my own 38 spl handloads which can be REALLLY filthy or not depending ...)

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    American made .30 carbine ammunition is the best in the world.
    Stick to Federal, Cor-Bon, Hornady, Winchester, and Remington
    for use in your USGI carbine. Some foreign stuff is great. Some
    foreign stuff is for practice only. A lot of foreign stuff is just plain
    junk. No foreign stuff is anywhere near as good as U.S. commercial
    ammunition. Buy American. If your carbine is used for law enforcement
    or a personal/home defense situation - never use foreign, hand-loaded,
    or re-loaded ammunition. There are NO EXCEPTIONS to this rule: use
    factory loaded cartridges only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackthesmib View Post
    American made .30 carbine ammunition is the best in the world.
    Stick to Federal, Cor-Bon, Hornady, Winchester, and Remington
    for use in your USGI carbine. Some foreign stuff is great. Some
    foreign stuff is for practice only. A lot of foreign stuff is just plain
    junk. No foreign stuff is anywhere near as good as U.S. commercial
    ammunition. Buy American. If your carbine is used for law enforcement
    or a personal/home defense situation - never use foreign, hand-loaded,
    or re-loaded ammunition. There are NO EXCEPTIONS to this rule: use
    factory loaded cartridges only.
    Nice comment, but to expensive for over here and i´ve never had a problem with my selfloaded ammo, only with the Remington ones.

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    Thumbs down Jeez!!..

    Quote Originally Posted by jackthesmib View Post
    American made .30 carbine ammunition is the best in the world.
    Stick to Federal, Cor-Bon, Hornady, Winchester, and Remington
    for use in your USGI carbine. Some foreign stuff is great. Some
    foreign stuff is for practice only. A lot of foreign stuff is just plain
    junk. No foreign stuff is anywhere near as good as U.S. commercial
    ammunition. Buy American. If your carbine is used for law enforcement
    or a personal/home defense situation - never use foreign, hand-loaded,
    or re-loaded ammunition. There are NO EXCEPTIONS to this rule: use
    factory loaded cartridges only.
    What an un-informed statement..
    Last edited by Mike Haas; 03-06-2011 at 10:29 AM.

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    Well, I agree American made factory ammo is great stuff. I shoot almost exclusively RP 110 FMJ for target and 110 JSP for defensive ammo (they shoot to the same POA). Mainly because the RP, I can get at Wally World anytime I want it for $24 a box. It averages about 1920 FPS, or 50 FPS less than Lake City. WW 110 ammo is a tad slower than RP, but good also. Czechicon made Sellier and Bellot is great ammo, too, shooting almost to the same POA as RP. Prvi Partizan is OK, but about 100 FPS slow, and Aguilla is almost 200 FPS slow, and shoot way low at 100 yards. Brazilianicon MagTech is superb ammo, and clocks at 2,000 fps, while still below max pressure. I also disagree about handloaded ammo not being good. If cases are trimmed, the standard 15 grain load of WW296 duplicates Lake City ammo, and is very accurate.

    The only ammo I avoid is Wolf and Tula steel cased ammo. I tried 500 rounds and it was awful! group size was 2x to 2.5x the RP, it was very dirty and inconsistent, and the only malfunctions I had (aside from a carbine with a collapsed recoil spring) were with the Wolf. It would not feed from even GI 30s because the polymer had too much drag under the spring tension of a full magazine. I even noticed a chipped extractor after shooting it, though I can not definitely say it wasn't chipped before it (though I think it was the Wolf that did it).

    Another note is that Aguilla can have FTEs when you have a new recoil spring (10 1/4"). When I shot some of it, I used a compressed spring a tad shorter than 10". Then it worked fine, but was almost off the target low at 100 yards compared to RP.

    I really wish I could afford to pick up 2,000 rounds of MagTech FMJ and 1.000 JSP. That ammo rocks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Haas View Post
    What a un-informed statement..
    +1
    If it shoots and is reliable and accurate, shoot it!
    Last edited by Bill Hollinger; 03-06-2011 at 12:20 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackthesmib View Post
    never use foreign, hand-loaded,
    or re-loaded ammunition. There are NO EXCEPTIONS to this rule: use
    factory loaded cartridges only.
    What is wrong with relaoding ? Maybe you don't know how or how much fun it is !
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