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    Pictures of front sight cramps including requested No.5 rifle



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    Thank you! But which is the No. 5??

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    The strange thing about the No5 rifle foresight cramp, if my memory serves me correctly, was that it was called a TOOLS, foresight, cramp, No4 Mk1......... Someone explained the reason once but it was all to do with numerical sequence - or something like that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by villiers View Post
    Thank you! But which is the No. 5??
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    It shows just how complicated these things were.......... The Regimental range staff thought it looked good walking around with all manner of these cramps and gadgets plus the customary leatherman multi-tool but to be honest, the Armourers just knew by sight how much to '.....tap it over a bit' with the smallest hammer and brass punch. Right Tankie and Skippy?

    As for that cramp for the Browning No2 pistol (bottom row, middle......) I can't say that I ever remember using one - or even having one issued. I mean...., at 10 yards............, well, you'd just aim off '.........a bit' Pistols........, we call them the last means of mechanical defiance

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Laidlericon View Post
    It shows just how complicated these things were.......... The Regimental range staff thought it looked good walking around with all manner of these cramps and gadgets plus the customary leatherman multi-tool but to be honest, the Armourers just knew by sight how much to '.....tap it over a bit' with the smallest hammer and brass punch. Right Tankie and Skippy?

    As for that cramp for the Browning No2 pistol (bottom row, middle......) I can't say that I ever remember using one - or even having one issued. I mean...., at 10 yards............, well, you'd just aim off '.........a bit' Pistols........, we call them the last means of mechanical defiance
    Peter, if you guys didn't have fancy exotic tools in your kit, people would get the idea that any monkey can do your jobs. Very bad for business. I can't testify as to the military use of the High Power tool--I found it in a box at a show.

    I did not try to list the nomenclature involved as it varied with the time and the numbers did not agree with the rifles they were supposed to fit. I did do two articles on cramps for the old Canadianicon Journal of Arms Collecting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Laidlericon View Post
    ... ... I mean...., at 10 yards............, well, you'd just aim off '.........a bit' Pistols........,
    I'll admit that I've never seen a purpose for adjustable sights on a pistol excepting of course the Olympic target pistols.

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    Talking of pistols, when we had the OLD No2 pistol, I'm talking of the .38 Enfield revolvers now, the foresights were all too low as I recall and the bullets all went high! The reason, given to me, was that as the distance increased, so the bullets dropped. So that at a few hundred yards or so, the bullets would strike the point of aim. That's very probably an Armourers urban myth but there were only three blades available. One slightly left, one central and the other slightly right. But since our ammo allocation was 2 rounds per man, per year, per haps, then it didn't matter too much!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Laidlericon View Post
    Talking of pistols, when we had the OLD No2 pistol, I'm talking of the .38 Enfield revolvers now, the foresights were all too low as I recall and the bullets all went high! The reason, given to me, was that as the distance increased, so the bullets dropped. So that at a few hundred yards or so, the bullets would strike the point of aim. That's very probably an Armourers urban myth but there were only three blades available. One slightly left, one central and the other slightly right.
    How odd, mine tend to shoot rather low! The Brownings seem OK, elevation wise, if not especially accurate.

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