Swiss schmidt-rubin 1889 30wcf glitch. Please help!

[joelyknives]

SWISS SCHMIDT-RUBIN 1889 30WCF GLITCH. PLEASE HELP! I had one awhile ago that I sold. Never fired or even chambered a round, it had a snapped bolt stop/release lever on the right side. I eventually sold it as parts(the guy needed the magazine for his). I think I know how the bolt stop snapped. I've picked up two more since then and they both cycle just fine empty. As soon as you introduce a cartridge(this might make some cringe) It takes a violent and very forceful slam to the bolt to get it to close completely- if the necessary brutal force isn't applied it will stop about 7mm shy of closing and thankfully won't strike the primer. Then even if not fully closed it takes the same hammering effort to open the action. The resulting slam impacts the bolt stop lever violently(eventually probably breaking it). I still have not fired a round for fear they will completely jam. I first thought it might be a headspace issue, but I think the conversion from a rimless to the .30 WCF rimmed cartridge is causing space issues with the extracter sitting farther out but it looks like there is enough of a channel relieved in the breech. PLEASE HELP! These guns I'm told were imported by Winchester as sporters. The '89 having a weaker action than the K11 or K31 but strong enough for the 30wcf. Please tell me this is common and there is a simple fix for this fascinating rifle. Thank you. Joel glassarm1@hotmail.com

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[jmoore]

Really??? What identifies it as a .30-30/.30WCF?

Did they shorten the barrel or sleeve the chamber, or just replace the entire front end?

It seems an unlikely conversion.

So, not all that common, nor does as reasonbly easy fix seem likely, but this conversion is news to me...

[joelyknives]

Hello jmoore, the barrel is shortened to 20" and marked on the left side of the barrel with (30-30 WCF Switzerland). The serial # on the barrel matches the reciever, it is indexed and has the cross stamped on the right side. I have never seen an original swiss 1889 so I don't know if the breech end was cut short and rechambered and rethreaded or a sleave soldered in. The front sight is a ramp with a military(mauser style) inverted v blade and the rear is a marbles style w/ elevator. This is the fifth 1889 30-30wcf sporter I've seen and they are all in a small town (Fort Frances, ON. Canada) All five were identical, maybe a Winchester Canada/Cooey deal. Thanks Joel.

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