+ Reply to Thread
Results 1 to 8 of 8

Thread: Identify This Sword, Is It A Legit Japanese Or A Fake Chinese Copy?

Click here to increase the font size Click here to reduce the font size
  1. #1
    FREE MEMBER
    NO Posting or PM's Allowed
    Albayo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Last On
    03-24-2023 @ 03:12 PM
    Location
    South East New Brunswick
    Posts
    151
    Local Date
    04-25-2024
    Local Time
    06:43 PM

    Identify This Sword, Is It A Legit Japanese Or A Fake Chinese Copy?

    I recently came across this Japaneseicon sword but I have a feeling its a Chinese copy.
    I am OK with bayonets but have no experience with these.
    Here are some pictures of the sword and the markings.








    Information
    Warning: This is a relatively older thread
    This discussion is older than 360 days. Some information contained in it may no longer be current.

  2. # ADS
    Friends and Sponsors
    Join Date
    October 2006
    Location
    Milsurps.Com
    Posts
    All Threads
    A Collector's View - The SMLE Short Magazine Lee Enfield 1903-1989. It is 300 8.5x11 inch pages with 1,000+ photo’s, most in color, and each book is serial-numbered.  Covering the SMLE from 1903 to the end of production in India in 1989 it looks at how each model differs and manufacturer differences from a collecting point of view along with the major accessories that could be attached to the rifle. For the record this is not a moneymaker, I hope just to break even, eventually, at $80/book plus shipping.  In the USA shipping is $5.00 for media mail.  I will accept PayPal, Zelle, MO and good old checks (and cash if you want to stop by for a tour!).  CLICK BANNER to send me a PM for International pricing and shipping. Manufacturer of various vintage rifle scopes for the 1903 such as our M73G4 (reproduction of the Weaver 330C) and Malcolm 8X Gen II (Unertl reproduction). Several of our scopes are used in the CMP Vintage Sniper competition on top of 1903 rifles. Brian Dick ... BDL Ltd. - Specializing in British and Commonwealth weapons Specializing in premium ammunition and reloading components. Your source for the finest in High Power Competition Gear. Here at T-bones Shipwrighting we specialise in vintage service rifle: re-barrelling, bedding, repairs, modifications and accurizing. We also provide importation services for firearms, parts and weapons, for both private or commercial businesses.
     

  3. #2
    Advisory Panel browningautorifle's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Last On
    Today @ 03:05 PM
    Location
    Victoria BC
    Posts
    29,932
    Real Name
    Jim
    Local Date
    04-25-2024
    Local Time
    04:43 PM
    From what I have been able to find out these were left over original parts assembled by the Chinese for export. I bought one as exactly that for my son's birthday years ago. They all came into Canadaicon in one rush and were brand new looking. The scabbard is the colour of paint the Chinese use on various weapon parts too. Some had handles painted too.
    Regards, Jim

  4. Avoid Ads - Become a Contributing Member - Click HERE
  5. #3
    Legacy Member tankhunter's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Last On
    06-28-2023 @ 05:15 PM
    Location
    UK
    Posts
    1,054
    Real Name
    Mike
    Local Date
    04-25-2024
    Local Time
    06:43 PM
    In my Opinon, this are fakes. I have owned & handled a fair few Jap blade over the years. The ORIGINAL variant of this sword, SHOULD have an Alliuminium Grip. NOT Brass. The stamped markings should be On the Blade Ricasso area. & most of those shown, were on Arisakaicon Bayonets. The Habaki (Brass Chape on the Blade near the grip) Was NEVER stamped at all. Neither was the collar fitted on the grip. These Swords when ORIGINAL, were indeed serial numbered at the factory. But only the blade & any componants matching numbered. Would be stamped with the numbers in an area where you could NOT see the numbers. Apart from the blade, you would only see these neumbers if you dismatled the sword. This Pattern, was an NCOs version. (Warrant Officers) An Actual OFFICERS Sword was deferent in a LOT of ways. I will not go into detail on this, as it would take too long. & is a very extensive list of details for a Different Pattern altogether.
    I hope this helps you? These fakes are still freely vailable from china today. Albeit, they have corrected the grip metal to correct Alliuminum.

  6. #4
    FREE MEMBER
    NO Posting or PM's Allowed
    topaz's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Last On
    04-25-2019 @ 03:10 PM
    Posts
    193
    Local Date
    04-25-2024
    Local Time
    07:43 PM
    Tankhunter is right . What he is saying is true

  7. #5
    Advisory Panel browningautorifle's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Last On
    Today @ 03:05 PM
    Location
    Victoria BC
    Posts
    29,932
    Real Name
    Jim
    Local Date
    04-25-2024
    Local Time
    04:43 PM
    I'm sorry if I gave the impression that I was saying these are original. They were assembled by the Chinese for export...for people who can't afford the original.
    Regards, Jim

  8. #6
    Legacy Member tankhunter's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Last On
    06-28-2023 @ 05:15 PM
    Location
    UK
    Posts
    1,054
    Real Name
    Mike
    Local Date
    04-25-2024
    Local Time
    06:43 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by browningautorifleicon View Post
    I'm sorry if I gave the impression that I was saying these are original. They were assembled by the Chinese for export...for people who can't afford the original.
    Quote Originally Posted by browningautorifle View Post
    I'm sorry if I gave the impression that I was saying these are original. They were assembled by the Chinese for export...for people who can't afford the original.
    Regards,
    Jim, Applogies, not nessacary. We all have to learn something in a LOT of areas! My personal thoughts are,'Well, they have gone to a lot of trouble to copy these swords. WHY didnt they do it right first time? IE: the grip being made from Brass, instead of alliminium? A lot of time wasted on a reasonable copy of the real thing that is spoilt by the lack of attention to detail.'
    Still, I suppose Labour & time is not an issue in China!

  9. #7
    Advisory Panel browningautorifle's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Last On
    Today @ 03:05 PM
    Location
    Victoria BC
    Posts
    29,932
    Real Name
    Jim
    Local Date
    04-25-2024
    Local Time
    04:43 PM
    Did you even read what I wrote tankhunter?
    Regards, Jim

  10. #8
    Legacy Member tankhunter's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Last On
    06-28-2023 @ 05:15 PM
    Location
    UK
    Posts
    1,054
    Real Name
    Mike
    Local Date
    04-25-2024
    Local Time
    06:43 PM
    Jim, You missed my point! You said in your post that these were ASSEMBLED from left over parts. Giving the impression that the componants were original
    I TOTALLY dispute that, & Reitterate. They were MANUFACTURED Copies & TOTALY FAKE!
    I hope that clarifies things for you.

+ Reply to Thread

Similar Threads

  1. Japanese late war wood handle NCO sword
    By jeep in forum Edged Weapons Forum
    Replies: 10
    Last Post: 10-10-2012, 09:10 PM
  2. Help with Japanese sword
    By webable in forum Edged Weapons Forum
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 09-17-2010, 01:04 PM
  3. Japanese Army Type 32 Cavalry sword?
    By Debou in forum Edged Weapons Forum
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 04-09-2010, 07:27 AM
  4. E-Bay auction - Legit or Fake - Rock-Ola stock?
    By SSgt's Son in forum M1/M2 Carbine
    Replies: 10
    Last Post: 04-19-2009, 06:13 PM
  5. test again with IMG copy from pb
    By presidents100 in forum M1903/1903A3/A4 Springfield Rifle
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 03-11-2009, 05:47 AM

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts