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    WW2-era Browning Hi-Power - what can you tell me?

    A question for y'all.

    My wife has a Browning Hi-Power that she inherited from her grandfather. He was in the OSS during WW2, and my understanding is that the OSS guys preferred the Hi-Power to the 1911. Matching serial numbers, and from what I've found based on the serial it was probably made ~early 1945 (serial is 4CH3XXX). It's a Mk.I*, with stamps from the Inglis armory in Canadaicon, plus the two crossed flags that I believe is also an Inglis marking. It's got the slot on the back of the butt for the wooden holster/stock.

    Haven't been able to take pictures, 'cause my phone is being a dick, but it looks like this.

    I'd greatly appreciate anything more y'all can tell me about this one.
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    The CH stands for Chinese contract. It's possible the OSS liked them but I should think they would want something small. Maybe silenced. The Hi Power was a favorite of many powers because it was a hi cap mag before it's time. The most of anyone. Germanyicon adopted the Belian model of 1935 when they over ran Belgiumicon. They will have Nazi proofs. An aquaintance of mine carried one and it's mentioned in the book Gathering of Eagles when he was guarding SS Geneal Kurt Myer. It says his revolver but he told me it was a Hi Power.

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    Thanks. What does Chinese contract mean, exactly? He did spend some time in China towards the end/after the war IIRC.

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    There are quite a few records of U.S. pistol shipments to the OSS during WWII including the 1911A1 and Colt Pocket Model Hammerless. An Inglis High Power may have been picked up in China, but it would not have been an issue weapon. The OSS had huge training programs in China during WWII.

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    From what I've seen, the OSS and SAS both used the Hi-Power with some frequency, even if it wasn't official. This one was made between August and October of 1945 (based on the serial), but no Chinese characters anywhere.

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    There were two contracts for the Inglis as made by the John Inglis company.( They also made Bren guns ) One was called the Britishicon contract that has a T in the serial number and the other the Chinese contract which has the CH in the number. The Chinese contract pistols were slotted for the holster stock and have the adjustable rear sight while the first contract has the rear sight milled out of the slide and most did not have the slot cut in the grip but some of them do have this but it was a case of using what ever frame was available at the time to keep the British contact going. If the OSS in Europe used a Hi-Power it would have been one of the British contract guns. While it's called the British contract,most of the pistols issued were used by Canadianicon forces and not by the British army. The Chinese pistols were made in two different time frames as there was a disagreement about these pistols. Seems the Chinese didn't really want them as there was a problem finding enough 9mm ammo for them. They did have the 7.62x25 Mauser ammo for the Broomhandles that were very popular in China at the time but not much 9mm. If I remember right the Canadian government sent a large shipment of 9mm ammo to them along with the second run of pistols. But the great thing about the Inglis is that it was built to withstand the use of higher pressure ammo made for use in sub guns so what ever ammo was available could used in it. They are a well built reliable firearms that are accurate enough to be used in just about any combat situation.

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    That jives with what I know. My wife's grandfather was in China at some point, so it makes sense that he'd have a Chinese contract one. No Chinese characters anywhere on it, and no import markings (plus all matching serial numbers, as I said). There are the remnants of a sticker on the front of the grip; was mainly gold with some red and blue. No clue what that is, and the rim of the sticker is all that's left unfortunately.

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    Thanks Bruce.
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    A lot of Chinese marked Inglis No1 and 2 pistols used to end up in South Vietnam in the hands of the VC. Our intelligence people told us that they were sent down South because 9mm ammo was more readily available down there. Mind you, someone else - depending on who you wanted to believe - told us that they were left behind by the Britishicon in the 40's or the Frenchicon in the 50's. Some were in VERY good condition with little sign of the poor storeage that was usually aparent on VC weaponry

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    Interesting to know. I don't think that's what happened to this one (her grandfather was not involved in Vietnam as far as I know), but interesting to know nonetheless.

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