Almost Hit A Homerun....New IBM !!!

[22mike]

On the CMP Carbine forum, you say that this carbine has no sight staking whatsoever and say the same thing here. Yet you tell Frank that it has the same heavy staking as his ?? I like the stock.

Ok..........I got the magnifying glass out for a closer look. On the right hand side of the rear sight there are two small notches in the sight base itself. There is no deformation in the receiver at all. On the left side of the sight there are no notches in the sight base or staking in the receiver. I mistook the squarish notches in the right side of the sight base to be staking. I am wrong. No staking at all that I see with a magnifying glass. My poor eyesight is too blame.
The stock is very nice. Other than the crossed cannon cartouche and JLB in the sling cutout I can only find what looks like a small "C" stamped on the base of the pistol grip.

[mpd1978]

Could post a picture of the rear dovetail on yours? Here is a pic of an adj sight on an 3.8 IBM, i believe it to be original. The staking is different than most. Anyway, looks like a nice IBM you got. I have had good luck with Minwax antique furniture refinisher for removing a shelac type finish.

[USGI]

Mike, is that sight bent in a bit at the front on both sides? Maybe it would be better to replace the whole thing? I cleaned a "shiny" finish off of one of my stocks using paint remover and acetone (not together). - Bob

[22mike]

A few more photos..............

[mpd1978]

That carbine appears to have had a flip sight on it in the past. Notice the way the outer edge of the right side of the dovetail appears to be dinged a bit. Its great that it doesnt have typical stake marks seen with adj sights. That makes it a great candidate to restore, IMO. Since the rear sight is missing parts and needs attention, I would wait until the perfect flip sight comes for sale and spend what it takes to get it. Dont get one thats been beat on or refinished, it may take years, but the right one will come along. In the mean time, either leave it alone or knock that one off and put a new adj sight on it until a nice flip surfaces. Nice Carbine! Thanks for the photos

Here is a pic of a flip sight with the staking like yours. Yours was probably leveled out a bit when they slid the old sight out and furthermore when they slid the adj in.
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[22mike]

I see the staking now. Would it really be worth the expense to put a flipper on it ? How do you remove a sight without a rear sight removal tool ??? Thanks for your help............

[USGI]

Mike, the sides of that sight are bent from someone forcing it from side to side. The stamped sights bend easier than the milled sights. With either one, it helps to move the windage adjustment fully toward the side you apply pressure to. Most of those sights can be tapped off by using a hammer and a piece of hardwood at the base. Also, the front tabs that held the aperature are both broken off. If you could find an aperature, you could probably slide it in from the front and it would stay in place. I think the best idea is to put on a different one until the right flip sight comes along. Here's a picture of the stamped sight on my S'G' that originally had a flip sight on it. Notice the stake marks similar to yours at the end of the dovetail. Nice Gun! - Bob

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[mpd1978]

The rear sight tool is a small investment to make and I would adivise you to buy one. If you dont want to buy one, you can put the reciever in a vise(between two wood blocks) and tap that adj (left to right) out with a piece of oak dowel rod. Most of them will come out pretty easy.

Is that IBM worthy of finding a flip sight for? -you bet. I think it is a great candidate for a restoration by adding a nice flip sight to it, especially since the current rear sight is not complete. If you only have $650 in the gun, you can easily put another $200 in it and not get hurt.

[22mike]

Thanks Guys............You are great !!!

[USGI]

I went to the local gunshow this weekend looking for a new Ruger SP101 .22lr revolver.

I know this is a bit off topic, but did you see any of the new Rugers? I looked at an SP101 .22lr and a "Single Ten" on Friday. I remember a price of $509, but can't remember which gun it was on. I've got an SP101 .22lr made in 1990 and really like it. The new one has a nicer rear sight, but I like the look of the original grips better. - Bob

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