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    Does this Bayo look legit?

    Im posting a link to an ebay auction that has a bayo for sale. Its advertised as a 1942 dated bayo. Think its real? How do you spot a fake?

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/150731794374...84.m1431.l2649

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    It is genuine.
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    Rough old bugger aint it Bill? Been through a couple of overhauls?
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    I could use the guts and grips for a full length 1942 I am restoring.

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    By the way, original question was how to spot a fake? The markings are very different on the fakes. They're available for viewing on Ebay and they come out of China I think. The scabbards are different and the whole thing doesn't compare to the originals. The finish doesn't look close to correct either. Like a poor blue and then stove paint over top.
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    Yeah, that one has been around the Horn more than once.

    I have seen more than a few of those fakes on eBay lately. There are fakes out there that are quite good and are not as easy to spot. I think the one single thing that comes to mind is the edges of the stampings are sharp and a more fine font. The scabbards are plastic and shiney and the metal is thinner.

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    Moved to "Edged Weapons" forum where it will hopefully receive more views.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Albayo View Post
    I could use the guts and grips for a full length 1942 I am restoring.
    That would be a tragedy, that is a government shortened M1905, making it the new standard M1icon bayonet in use from 1944 and for as long as the M1 Garand was on issue. Destroying a legitimate issue bayonet to "restore" another? Why?

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    Looking closer at the eBay link, it is possible that it is a fake, the scabbard does look like a straight plastic scabbard rather than the "cotton duck body impregnated with a thermosetting plastic" as stated in my link below. If this is the case, this would be a fair target for using parts in a restoration. They can probably be fitted to work on an original.
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    Quote Originally Posted by browningautorifleicon View Post
    By the way, original question was how to spot a fake? The markings are very different on the fakes. They're available for viewing on Ebay and they come out of China I think. The scabbards are different and the whole thing doesn't compare to the originals. The finish doesn't look close to correct either. Like a poor blue and then stove paint over top.
    fakeing bayo info--

    M1905

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    That is helpful but this is more detailed:

    Bayo Points 13

    and there is this:

    Bayo Points 30

    The last goes into the M1905 reproductions in some detail but it also applies to the reproduction M1icon bayonets.
    Last edited by gew8805; 01-09-2012 at 11:33 AM.

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