+ Reply to Thread
Results 1 to 6 of 6

Thread: Heat treatment of Bren receiver

Click here to increase the font size Click here to reduce the font size
  1. #1
    Advisory Panel Lee Enfield's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Last On
    Yesterday @ 09:06 PM
    Location
    out there
    Posts
    1,822
    Local Date
    04-18-2024
    Local Time
    01:16 AM

    Heat treatment of Bren receiver

    Chinese Brens photo - mrclark photos at pbase.com

    Now is that a spot anneal or an induction hardening spot?
    Information
    Warning: This is a relatively older thread
    This discussion is older than 360 days. Some information contained in it may no longer be current.
    BSN from the Republic of Alberta

    http://www.cartridgecollectors.org/

  2. Thank You to Lee Enfield For This Useful Post:


  3. # ADS
    Friends and Sponsors
    Join Date
    October 2006
    Location
    Milsurps.Com
    Posts
    All Threads
    A Collector's View - The SMLE Short Magazine Lee Enfield 1903-1989. It is 300 8.5x11 inch pages with 1,000+ photo’s, most in color, and each book is serial-numbered.  Covering the SMLE from 1903 to the end of production in India in 1989 it looks at how each model differs and manufacturer differences from a collecting point of view along with the major accessories that could be attached to the rifle. For the record this is not a moneymaker, I hope just to break even, eventually, at $80/book plus shipping.  In the USA shipping is $5.00 for media mail.  I will accept PayPal, Zelle, MO and good old checks (and cash if you want to stop by for a tour!).  CLICK BANNER to send me a PM for International pricing and shipping. Manufacturer of various vintage rifle scopes for the 1903 such as our M73G4 (reproduction of the Weaver 330C) and Malcolm 8X Gen II (Unertl reproduction). Several of our scopes are used in the CMP Vintage Sniper competition on top of 1903 rifles. Brian Dick ... BDL Ltd. - Specializing in British and Commonwealth weapons Specializing in premium ammunition and reloading components. Your source for the finest in High Power Competition Gear. Here at T-bones Shipwrighting we specialise in vintage service rifle: re-barrelling, bedding, repairs, modifications and accurizing. We also provide importation services for firearms, parts and weapons, for both private or commercial businesses.
     

  4. #2
    Advisory Panel
    Peter Laidler's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Last On
    04-13-2024 @ 05:00 AM
    Location
    Abingdon, Oxfordshire. The home of MG Cars
    Posts
    16,510
    Real Name
    Peter Laidler
    Local Date
    04-18-2024
    Local Time
    08:16 AM
    If you are referring to the black elongated mark on the gun bodies in the photos then to be honest, I dispute that it IS an annealing or an induction hardening mark because on that part of the body, what is there to harden? The only part I can think of is to mallurgically normalise the many edges around the front opening of the magazine well OR to harden the feed ramps into the chamber. But hardly, because the suft copper projectiles wouldn't wear anything out in any case. What about the barrelopening. Not that either as the discolouration doesn't extend there either and in any case, they regularly used to wear out and be replaced at Base workshops

    Nope............. no idea. It's definately an induction process because the black staining is visible internally through the other side of the body

  5. Avoid Ads - Become a Contributing Member - Click HERE
  6. #3
    Advisory Panel
    Peter Laidler's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Last On
    04-13-2024 @ 05:00 AM
    Location
    Abingdon, Oxfordshire. The home of MG Cars
    Posts
    16,510
    Real Name
    Peter Laidler
    Local Date
    04-18-2024
    Local Time
    08:16 AM
    The strange thing is that while there is a heat treatment mark of some sort on the front of the gun body, there isn't a heat treatment mark at the cocking handle ramp (at the front of the Mk2 type cocking handle slot) which IS hardened to prevent friction wear.

    Anyone else got any comments........ or am I missing something in L-E's original question

  7. #4
    Advisory Panel Lee Enfield's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Last On
    Yesterday @ 09:06 PM
    Location
    out there
    Posts
    1,822
    Local Date
    04-18-2024
    Local Time
    01:16 AM
    Thread Starter
    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Laidlericon View Post
    The strange thing is that while there is a heat treatment mark of some sort on the front of the gun body, there isn't a heat treatment mark at the cocking handle ramp (at the front of the Mk2 type cocking handle slot) which IS hardened to prevent friction wear.

    Anyone else got any comments........ or am I missing something in L-E's original question
    You are right, that is exactly my question, the only things I could think is induction hardening the feedlips, mag locking recess, bullet guide, or where the front bolt body locks.

    I really cannot think of a reason to anneal the receiver in that area??
    BSN from the Republic of Alberta

    http://www.cartridgecollectors.org/

  8. #5
    Advisory Panel
    Peter Laidler's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Last On
    04-13-2024 @ 05:00 AM
    Location
    Abingdon, Oxfordshire. The home of MG Cars
    Posts
    16,510
    Real Name
    Peter Laidler
    Local Date
    04-18-2024
    Local Time
    08:16 AM
    You've answered your own question there LE. It's to induction harden the front face of the breech block stops. The breech block doesn't lock anywhere near there. It lock up at the rear into the locking shoulder but it certainly comes to a STOP there and if there is no cartridge in the chamber, then the block stops against the breech block stops with some considerable force. If it didn't, it'd beat against the barrel face.

  9. #6
    Legacy Member Kev G's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Last On
    11-17-2023 @ 01:09 PM
    Posts
    562
    Local Date
    04-18-2024
    Local Time
    07:16 AM


    ATB KG

+ Reply to Thread

Similar Threads

  1. Treatment for a slightly crippled 1905 Ross
    By firefuzz in forum The Ross Rifle Knowledge Library Collectors Forum
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 10-26-2011, 02:16 AM
  2. Cryogenic treatment vs wear rate
    By 3mctoledo in forum The Lee Enfield Knowledge Library Collectors Forum
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 08-18-2011, 09:59 PM
  3. sling treatment and storage
    By uhjohnson in forum Japanese Rifles
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 11-19-2010, 05:18 PM
  4. Bren Receiver Internal Differences.
    By MarkDevCanada in forum The Bren LMG (Light Machine Gun)
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 08-19-2010, 09:31 PM
  5. NGC treatment of the Kennedy Assassination
    By phil441 in forum The Watering Hole OT (Off Topic) Forum
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 12-07-2009, 08:05 AM

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts