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M1 NPM Carbine for $630.00 I would appreciate any help
I have a chance to buy a M1 NPM Carbine
Receiver 1,492,883 NPM ( this # falls in the 1st block made by NPM )
Barrel is underwood 6-43 with flaming bomb
Rear sights ( milled type 2 with letters HI on the right side ( I think this in Inland )
In front of the rear sight about 1" is 2 punch marks in the top of the receiver (I don't know what this stands for)
Flat bolt
Milled trigger guard
Recoil plate marked SG
Stock has faint P mark on the pistol grip, on right side very faint ( it looks like a square with letters on inside and maybe next to the box cross cannons) very very faint. On the right side faint MCM or some type of rebuild stamp???. Sling well has some kind of letters RS???,07?? and maybe SUI, I just can't make any of them out.
Hand guard has 4 rivet and color does not match the stock so I know it is not right but all the wood is very nice with the normal dings.
I know this Carbine is a mix of parts and I need a ME test with a 30-06 round as I do not have gauges.
The only other thing is I will have to find a different butt plate as the one on the rifle does not fit correct, it is to big.
Price of $630.00 I don't feel I could go wrong.
I am just learning and only have 2 books to use.
I forgot to add that the front band was marked MMQ with the head of the bolt on the right side,it has the bayo lug but this may be repro???
I would appreciate your input and help.
Thanks
Dick
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Last edited by DICKX; 02-18-2012 at 11:39 PM.
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02-18-2012 11:27 PM
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If the ME is decent, I think that is a very good price. If you have an M2 30-06 round, 1/4" is roughly a ME of 0. 3/16" is about 1, 1/8" is 2, and 1/16" is about 3. usually stuff of 2 or less shoot really well, though I had one with a 3 that shot as well an my Inland with less than 1.5. I believe the MMQ type III band is an original arsenal replacement when it upgraded. With so many legit Type III bands around, there is little call for fakes.
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I have question about the buttplate
The buttplate on the carbine seems to not fit just right. The top of it is a little above the wood stock and seems like it is not real tight fit to the wood but the screw is tight.
The wood does not look like it has been sanded but all buttplates should be the same size so any make should fit. ???
All help is appreciated
Thanks
Dick
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Buttplate not fitting
I have been told that the stock has been sanded and that is why the BP is a little taller than the wood which makes sense. I can't justify buying a new stock as this would cost to much. Just when I think I have found a good deal it turns out not to be. I read about all the good buy's that some guy's make, but by the time I look in the books and ask questions the rifle is gone.
I guess that for $630.00 you don't get to much, or you have to be more knowledgeable than I am. I don't want to get burnt as I don't have that much extra cash for rifles.
Thanks
Dick
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It is still a very good deal for a relatively un-messed with, government mixmaster. A slightly sanded stock is not the end of the world. I would buy it in a heart beat! The days of $419 Inland rackers form CMP are long gone.
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Buttplates can vary a little bit. I've got a couple of carbines that I was able to "help" by swapping buttplates around. Sometimes you can lube the screw threads a bit, and get the plate to pull up a little tighter. Also you can sometimes center the plate better by tapping 'here and there' a bit before final tightening of the screw. That sounds like a decent price to me. - Bob
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I had a stock that was swollen to the point that no butt plate would fit it. I put it in the utility closet and it helped but not enough. I ended up taking a file to the shoulder of the stock to get it to fit.
Bill Hollinger
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I think I will take a M2 Ball 30-06 round and go up monday and check the ME and also look the BP over a little better. I will take my other M1 Carbine with me and compare the rear butt wood and look to see if any wood has been sanded off the top of the stock and if so how much.
Any one else care to chime in feel welcome.
Thanks to all.
Dick
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