help No4 MK1 shooting low at 100Y

[Brian Dick]

Do yourself a favor and purchase one of Skennerton's Small Arms ID Series booklets on the No.4. They're the big pricey sum of $10 plus shipping and have a complete Illustrated Parts List included along with lots of other helpful information. Sourcing parts is made so much easier if you can see and know the proper nomenclature for the parts you're seeking.

[Gnr527]

And - seeing the previous poster you could do a lot worse than go to BDL for books and sight blades)- I have done (and I am in the UK).

You'll get good service - and good advice.

[armenjs]

But please............ we won't need 8 photos to read/see the size number on it, believe me!

Hi Peter,I was trying to get good shots of the barrel groves for Max 's response. I just looked at your accolades, very impressive. You're Gong to my buddy list.

[armenjs]

Peter , Max
The top of the front sight base indicates ROF, and the bottom shows .031.

Thanks.

[HILLBILLY-06]

Are you using American 6 O'clock hold on the Bull?

When shooting various Enfields at 200 yds. using a 6 O'Clock hold, DCM targets (12" bull) my starting point was to set the slide to 400 yds. I couldn't figure the problem until I realized I was shooting American hold with a British rifle! I found an illustration of a British target which was actually the top half of a bull. They sighted in to point of impact.

I never heard that one brought out into the open before. That in itself, is a single bit of important information to have. Wish I would have known that 10 years ago, or even 20 years ago. We all been aiming at the wrong edge of our targets with them things. We are taught the 6'oclock hold for all our service rifles over here, sometimes even a "flat tire hold" if you need to. But rarely do we aim at the upper portion of our targets around here. Thats great, and thanks for letting us know. I knew there was a reason for it, I just didn't know what it was.

[armenjs]

Answers keep coming i love it. I never heard about 12 Oclock hold my first time. but it makes since. I can't wait to go to range and try it. In my case I hope i can find a shorter front sight base not the blade but the base seems to long.

[Maxwell Smart]

I hope i can find a shorter front sight base not the blade but the base seems to long.

The depth/thickness of the front sight base is what is changed when you get a different size - the blade itself stays about .140" in height. Your front sight appears to be a .030 one, so there is plenty of scope to find a lower one in the available range of sight elements. Each size change is about .015" difference in overall height.

[jmoore]

Answers keep coming i love it. I never heard about 12 Oclock hold my first time. but it makes since. I can't wait to go to range and try it. In my case I hope i can find a shorter front sight base not the blade but the base seems to long.

Not so much a "12 O'clock" as a "Center Mass" hold. Easy enough to replicate the British type "tin hat" target. Either split your bulleye target in two and place each half on a blank paper backer, or just cover the bottom half of the bull.

Note that the "sight base" isn't the same as the bottom portion of the front sight! As Maxwell Smart notes, the sight picture is kept uniform by adding material to the bottom of the front sight itself so the blade stays the same. The "sight base" is the part of the front sight assembly that is attached to the barrel.

[Peter Laidler]

Just a very minor correction if I might be so bold JM. Armourers call the part that the sight fits into the BLOCK, band, foresight or just the foresight block. The bottom part of the foresight we call the dovetail block

[jmoore]

Correction noted! Being a wild colonial, it might not stick the first few times. Hardheaded and all that.