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    Saginaw SG 3.49 pics

    Here is a pretty solid SG, it came from a PA gun store via GB. It was a bring back that was brought into the shop 'straight out of the closet'. Its only out of place part is the adj sight, everything else is straight up original, IMO anyway. I almost hate to clean it, that dusty untouched look is something that you just cant reproduce that easy. The handguard looks like it was peppered with some flying debris, the jagged holes go all the way through the wood in several places.










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    I may be completely off on this, but I wonder if that rear sight isn't original. Do you know if that is a late manufacture date for them? For some reason I have this thought that they started using the adjustables towards the end of production. But I could be all wet. So, wait for someone else to say. But yeah, High wood stock and no bayo lug. Push button safety. That could be original. Too bad the stock is so dinged up.

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    MPD,
    Looking like a very nice find.
    I share the feeling about wiping off 'The Historical Grime'
    Also looking forward to more info...........

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    Parts breakdown:
    Bolt, FP, and extractor=SG
    Slide, Trigger Housing=SG
    Hammer(in the white) and trigger=SG
    sear=unmarked
    Recoil plate, early type=unmarked
    rear sight=IR CO with part #
    Front sight=unmarked, has correct milled out area for SG used sights
    stock and handguard=RSG marked, sling well numbers and letters, green stamp inside stock and the CC and boxed SG
    Barrel is Saginaw with large P
    Safety=unmarked type 3
    mag catch type2a marked SG
    early band with wide swivel, 3welds, both unmarked

    As for the rear sight, I just dont think its original, maybe on a later 5.8 with low wood and the later bands I would think its plausible.

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    It seems weird that someone would leave it all stock except for the rear sight. Then again, if they wanted to shoot it, it may have been viable to just change that. That is certainly possible. If so, they'd be kicking themselves if they knew how much a flip sight goes for now. Or maybe they separated the flipsight and sold the rifle and the sight and made out better.

    Anyways.. I'm kind of rambling. Nice find for sure!

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    I have read that late in production SG did use an adj rear sight.

    Nice find.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ABPOS View Post
    It seems weird that someone would leave it all stock except for the rear sight. Then again, if they wanted to shoot it, it may have been viable to just change that. That is certainly possible. If so, they'd be kicking themselves if they knew how much a flip sight goes for now. Or maybe they separated the flipsight and sold the rifle and the sight and made out better.

    Anyways.. I'm kind of rambling. Nice find for sure!
    Many carbines were upgraded in the field with the adj sight during WW2, I have seen more than a few totally original carbines with nothing changed except for the rear sight. Its all pretty much guesswork though, this sight could have been put on this carbine last week by the previous owner, by a GI in 1944 during, or by the a Saginaw employee at the plant. My best guess is that it was a field upgrade though.

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    a few more pics...
    Note the proof and stake marks are 'through the finish' and also take note of the odd finish of the bolt. I didnt know this until an advanced collector informed me, but SG bolts can have a different finish than other contractors, they are not parkerized and dont appear to be dulite. Its a strange lusterous finish unlike any other bolts. I have another one that is similar to this one, but in better shape. It looks almost like charcoal.







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    It's lovely.

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    Just the stock is a rare find, these days....

    Charlie-painter777

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