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    Length claimed is ~150 ft. That would make it a Type II sub. Very strange.

    And the image in the linked article? I have absolutely no idea what they're trying to show.

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    here's another;

    Explorers find downed German U-Boat off Massachusetts nearly 70 years after it sank

    no pictures either but at least there is documentation, see what shows up here

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    Yup the U-550. The local fisherman have know where it was for a long time as it's in a prime fishing area. They had better be careful what they do on this wreck as the Navy and the State Department could very well step in and tell them to leave it alone and not touch it as it's a war grave site and the Germanicon government has asked that all U-boats be left alone because of that. Past stripping of a U-boat during which three German sailors were brought up and returned to shore started it and that created a huge problem for the State Department and the Navy.

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    Hard Aground is the story of Ralph Eraser, a Canadianicon who was posted to Goose Bay, Labrador, during World War II. In 1965 he returned to Labrador to get to know the people better and to solve a wartime mystery.

    Why had his station received messages from a Germanicon submarine/located inside Labrador? Ralph is joined by two others who are also seeking the answer to the riddle — ex-airman Frank Baird and Karl Runsted, grandson of the submarine's commander.

    http://www.umanitoba.ca/cm/cmarchive...rdaground.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce McAskill View Post
    Yup the U-550. The local fisherman have know where it was for a long time as it's in a prime fishing area. They had better be careful what they do on this wreck as the Navy and the State Department could very well step in and tell them to leave it alone and not touch it as it's a war grave site and the German government has asked that all U-boats be left alone because of that. Past stripping of a U-boat during which three German sailors were brought up and returned to shore started it and that created a huge problem for the State Department and the Navy.
    Thats very interesting Bruce, I,m always concerned when people start to plunder War Graves etc, being a Merchant Seaman myself, plus serving an Apprenticeship in a shipyard building Submarines I know a little about ships etc, and I can see both sides of the coin, bringing them sailors up I think was the decent thing to do, and I,m sure if anyone ever stopped and asked the relatives of these lost semen would it be ok, then I would say the answer would of been yes, but was it about these seamen, or more to do with the cargo in the way the vessel was stripped?

    It was approx 12 years ago when I was visiting U 534, I met an ex Submariner who had sailed on a sister submarine to U 534, I never got the Gents name but it was one of those meetings that you never forget.

    It had all started when I booked a visit to U 534, I was at the time about a mile away (as the crow flies) from U 534 looking after a vessel that was laid up.

    At the start of the visit we were all told of the dangers etc, and that we must sign a disclamer regarding the fact if ayone did suffer any accident, then it was not possible to sue the company at the time.

    once on board U 534 we all gathered and at the time the curator asked if anyone had been on a sub before, I stuck my hand up and explained that I had during my time in the ship yard etc, the guy in charge then asked someone behind me, " and you sir, what is experiance " the reply was "I sailed on one of these", it was the gents accent that threw me as it was Welsh !!!

    At the end of the tour we assembled in a large area that had a lot of artifacts from the vessel, it was then I introduced myself.

    We talked about the sub etc, and he described the time they left port, he said he was 17 at the time and it was very similar to the film "Das Boat" were it was crammed with fresh food, and this was first on the menu, at the end of a patrol he said things were grim, and the diet was canned fish and condensed milk.

    I asked about the accent and he had a Laugh, it was just before the war ended the sub had surendered and he was taken as a POW, the POW camp was in Wales and when the War ended he had an option to stay, he said there was nothing left in Germanyicon for him to return, so carved out a new life in Wales.

    The visit had brought back many memories of his friends, most of them all lost at sea.
    I never got to get his details as I had to make a call at the time and when I returned he was leaving with his Daughter and Son in law, it was a shame as I would of loved to have a few beers with him.

    Going back to U 534, When I visited it was still in one peace, but the trust who owned it, had gone broke and closed, the land was to be sold for development, U 534 was bought my Merseytravel and cut into sections and moved to form part of a small museum.

    I think the following link says it all, I just dont think enough was done to preserve it as it was.

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Her Capt. was reputed to be a die hard Nazi who refused to surrender. He torpedoed a WW1 vintage Eagle class patrol boat off the coast of Maine and then headed south. Off of Block Island Rhode Island he sank the merchant ship Blackpoint caring coal to Boston. But it was not a smart thing to do as there was only about 130 feet of water under him and just a few miles away was the home port of the North Atlantic Destroyer squadron in Newport Rhode Island. There was also a Naval air station not very far away also. Needless to say it did not take long for the sub to be found and sunk. Skip ahead 15 years or so and a man named John Jags started diving on the U-853. He took many things off of it from life rafts to the attack periscope and started a museum. Then he brought three of the crew to shore and that started an international incident. 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The evidence is rapidly disappearing and any connections with living relatives will be lost forever and so with any discovery, time is a factor.<br /> <br /> The issue of looting/war grave desecration vs. invisible preservation (to a point) is contentious as there can be a fine line when wanting to bring history to life for the present generation and those to come.<br /> <br /> Whether the pic shows part of a <span style='whitespace: nowrap'><a href='https://www.milsurps.com/content.php?r=123-germany' onclick="microAjax('autolinker/autolinker_stats.php?uid=0&fid=40&t=c&kw=German', function (res) {;});" target='_blank' onmouseout='UnTip()' onmouseover="Tip('Click the link to view the <a href=\'https://www.milsurps.com/content.php?r=123-germany\'><b>Germany Section</b></a> of the <a href=\'https://www.milsurps.com/content.php\'><b>Milsurp Knowledge Library</b></a>.', BGCOLOR, '#DDDDDD', BORDERCOLOR, '#000000', BORDERWIDTH, '1',FOLLOWMOUSE, 0, OFFSETX, -10, OPACITY, '95', FADEIN, '25', FADEOUT, '25', CLICKCLOSE, true,FOLLOWSCROLL, true, PADDING, 0, BALLOON, 1 ,ABOVE, false, TITLE1, 'Germany - Milsurp Knowledge Library',LINKURL, 'https://www.milsurps.com/content.php?r=123-germany', SHOWCLOSE, 0, BALLOONIMGPATH , 'autolinker/images/balloons/yellow'); microAjax('autolinker/autolinker_stats.php?uid=0&fid=40&t=v&kw=German', function (res) {;});" style="font-weight:Normal;font-style:Normal;text-decoration:None;text-transform:None;font-size:100%;color:#000000;font-family:;">German</a><img style='margin:1px' src='autolinker/images/link6.gif' alt='icon'/></span> U-Boat or perhaps the remains of a SuperFort as someone mentioned, this could be war history in/on <span style='whitespace: nowrap'><a href='https://www.milsurps.com/content.php?r=117-canada' onclick="microAjax('autolinker/autolinker_stats.php?uid=0&fid=40&t=c&kw=Canadian', function (res) {;});" target='_blank' onmouseout='UnTip()' onmouseover="Tip('Click the link to view the <a href=\'https://www.milsurps.com/content.php?r=117-canada\'><b>Canada Section</b></a> of the <a href=\'https://www.milsurps.com/content.php\'><b>Milsurp Knowledge Library</b></a>.', BGCOLOR, '#DDDDDD', BORDERCOLOR, '#000000', BORDERWIDTH, '1',FOLLOWMOUSE, 0, OFFSETX, -10, OPACITY, '95', FADEIN, '25', FADEOUT, '25', CLICKCLOSE, true,FOLLOWSCROLL, true, PADDING, 0, BALLOON, 1 ,ABOVE, false, TITLE1, 'Canada - Milsurp Knowledge Library',LINKURL, 'https://www.milsurps.com/content.php?r=117-canada', SHOWCLOSE, 0, BALLOONIMGPATH , 'autolinker/images/balloons/yellow'); microAjax('autolinker/autolinker_stats.php?uid=0&fid=40&t=v&kw=Canadian', function (res) {;});" style="font-weight:Normal;font-style:Normal;text-decoration:None;text-transform:None;font-size:100%;color:#000000;font-family:;">Canadian</a><img style='margin:1px' src='autolinker/images/link6.gif' alt='icon'/></span> territory so I am looking forward to hearing more.<br /> <br /> The fact is that German subs went up river in the St. Lawrence to a certain point, how close to Quebec City in 43 when King hosted Roosevelt and Churchill?<br /> Revisionist history can get an argument started, I'm sure Churchill came over by warship, what could have been the outcome if German Intelligence had determined a target within the "safe" waters of the St. Lawrence. <br /> We know of much action in the Gulf itself and the weather station erected by a German sub crew (and civilians) in Labrador is the only documented enemy action by uniformed military on North American soil during WW11 or?<br /> <br /> Back to the main story, might there be a reason for the sub commander to navigate this river so far inland? who knows.... 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Well maybe just a vague passing reference to it :madsmile: ...">Boat Tails!!!</a></h6> <div class="starter_forum"> By lngstrt in forum The Lee Enfield Knowledge Library Collectors Forum </div> </div> <div class="dateblock"> <span class="shade">Replies:</span> 47 <div class="starter_forum"> <span class="shade">Last Post:</span> 03-09-2021, <span class="time">01:40 PM</span> </div> </div> </li> <!-- END TEMPLATE: showthread_similarthreadbit --><!-- BEGIN TEMPLATE: showthread_similarthreadbit --> <li class="floatcontainer"> <div class="titleblock"> <h6><a href="showthread.php?t=39700&s=f142d85fce5e7b8cc8c00030d93daf2a" title="http://www.google.ca/url?url=http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2012/07/25/WWII-German-sub-in-Canadian-river/UPI-45361343266770/&rct=j&sa=X&ei=I3U...">German U-boat may be at bottom of Labrador river (New Thread)</a></h6> <div class="starter_forum"> By blazer91 in forum The Watering Hole OT (Off Topic) Forum </div> </div> <div class="dateblock"> <span class="shade">Replies:</span> 9 <div class="starter_forum"> <span class="shade">Last Post:</span> 07-27-2012, <span class="time">05:49 PM</span> </div> </div> </li> <!-- END TEMPLATE: showthread_similarthreadbit --><!-- BEGIN TEMPLATE: showthread_similarthreadbit --> <li class="floatcontainer"> <div class="titleblock"> <h6><a href="showthread.php?t=13662&s=f142d85fce5e7b8cc8c00030d93daf2a" title="Does anyone know the origin of this mark stamped on the bottom of the pistol grip of some M1A1 carbines? (seems like mostly second run) I have been...">RI/3 mark on M1A1 pistol grip bottom</a></h6> <div class="starter_forum"> By raycer911 in forum M1/M2 Carbine </div> </div> <div class="dateblock"> <span class="shade">Replies:</span> 3 <div class="starter_forum"> <span class="shade">Last Post:</span> 06-10-2012, <span class="time">06:20 AM</span> </div> </div> </li> <!-- END TEMPLATE: showthread_similarthreadbit --><!-- BEGIN TEMPLATE: showthread_similarthreadbit --> <li class="floatcontainer"> <div class="titleblock"> <h6><a href="showthread.php?t=33637&s=f142d85fce5e7b8cc8c00030d93daf2a" title="I'm not sure if I'm amused or horrified:yikes: Calibre 303 Make Fazakerley Model No 4 Mk 2 Action Bolt repeater Scope 8-32x50 Tasco WC ...">whatever floats your boat</a></h6> <div class="starter_forum"> By Old Lancer in forum The Lee Enfield Knowledge Library Collectors Forum </div> </div> <div class="dateblock"> <span class="shade">Replies:</span> 12 <div class="starter_forum"> <span class="shade">Last Post:</span> 09-23-2011, <span class="time">02:41 PM</span> </div> </div> </li> <!-- END TEMPLATE: showthread_similarthreadbit --> </ol> </div> </div> <!-- END TEMPLATE: showthread_similarthreads --> <h4 class="threadinfohead"><span class="optiontitle">Tags for this Thread</span></h4> <div id="thread_tags_list" class="thread_info_block"> <div class="inner_block"> <div id='tag_list_cell'> <!-- BEGIN TEMPLATE: tagbit_wrapper --> <ul class="commalist"> <!-- BEGIN TEMPLATE: tagbit --> <li><a href="tags.php?s=f142d85fce5e7b8cc8c00030d93daf2a&tag=bottom">bottom</a></li> <!-- END TEMPLATE: tagbit --><!-- BEGIN TEMPLATE: tagbit --> <li><a href="tags.php?s=f142d85fce5e7b8cc8c00030d93daf2a&tag=german">german</a></li> <!-- END TEMPLATE: tagbit --><!-- BEGIN TEMPLATE: tagbit --> <li><a href="tags.php?s=f142d85fce5e7b8cc8c00030d93daf2a&tag=labrador">labrador</a></li> <!-- END TEMPLATE: tagbit --><!-- BEGIN TEMPLATE: tagbit --> <li><a href="tags.php?s=f142d85fce5e7b8cc8c00030d93daf2a&tag=river">river</a></li> <!-- END TEMPLATE: tagbit --><!-- BEGIN TEMPLATE: tagbit --> <li><a href="tags.php?s=f142d85fce5e7b8cc8c00030d93daf2a&tag=uboat">uboat</a></li> <!-- END TEMPLATE: tagbit --> </ul> <img src="images/tacticalgamer/misc/11x11progress.gif" id="tag_form_progress" class="inlineimg hidden" alt="" /> <!-- END TEMPLATE: tagbit_wrapper --> </div> <p> <a href="tags.php?s=f142d85fce5e7b8cc8c00030d93daf2a">View Tag Cloud</a> </p> </div> </div> <div class="options_block_container"> <div class="options_block"> <h4 class="collapse"> <a class="collapse" id="collapse_posting_rules" href="showthread.php?t=39436&page=2#top"><img src="images/tacticalgamer/buttons/collapse_40b.png" alt="" /></a> <span class="optiontitle">Posting Permissions</span> </h4> <div id="posting_rules" class="thread_info_block"> <!-- BEGIN TEMPLATE: forumrules --> <div id="forumrules" class="info_subblock"> <ul class="youcandoblock"> <li>You <strong>may not</strong> post new threads</li> <li>You <strong>may not</strong> post replies</li> <li>You <strong>may not</strong> post attachments</li> <li>You <strong>may not</strong> edit your posts</li> </ul> <div class="bbcodeblock"> <ul> <li><a href="misc.php?s=f142d85fce5e7b8cc8c00030d93daf2a&do=bbcode" target="_blank">BB code</a> is <strong>On</strong></li> <li><a href="misc.php?s=f142d85fce5e7b8cc8c00030d93daf2a&do=showsmilies" target="_blank">Smilies</a> are <strong>On</strong></li> <li><a href="misc.php?s=f142d85fce5e7b8cc8c00030d93daf2a&do=bbcode#imgcode" target="_blank">[IMG]</a> code is <strong>On</strong></li> <li>HTML code is <strong>On</strong></li> </ul> </div> <p class="rules_link"><a href="misc.php?s=f142d85fce5e7b8cc8c00030d93daf2a&do=showrules" target="_blank">Forum Rules & Site User Agreement</a></p> </div> <!-- END TEMPLATE: forumrules --> </div> </div> </div> </div> <!-- BEGIN TEMPLATE: highslide_script --> <!-- END TEMPLATE: highslide_script --> <!-- BEGIN TEMPLATE: footer --> <!-- BEGIN TEMPLATE: ad_footer_start --> <div align="center" class="block"></div> <!-- END TEMPLATE: ad_footer_start --> <!-- BEGIN TEMPLATE: ad_global_above_footer --> <div id="ad_global_above_footer"><div align="center"> </div></div> <!-- END TEMPLATE: ad_global_above_footer --> <script type="text/javascript" src="highslide/highslide-full.packed.js"></script> <script type="text/javascript" src="https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/swfobject/2.1/swfobject.js"></script> <script type='text/javascript'> // Add the controlbar hs.addSlideshow({ slideshowGroup: 'group1', interval: 5000, repeat: false, useControls: true, fixedControls: 'fit', overlayOptions: { opacity: .75, position: 'bottom center', hideOnMouseOut: true } }); hs.graphicsDir = 'highslide/graphics/'; hs.outlineType = 'rounded-white'; hs.fullExpandTitle = 'Expand to actual size'; hs.restoreTitle = 'Click to close image, click and drag to move. 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