What is your dream milsurp?

[tiriaq]

It strikes me that it would be easier and simpler if a tech. from the RCMP Lab. just made a business visit to the manufacturer. Then they could really determine exactly what was being done, and how. Of course, this would require a certain degree of cooperation, support, etc. from the powers that be. A one time expenditure of a couple of thousand dollars could result in all the products of a given manufacturer being given FRT numbers and clearance for importation. Might not be a bad investment on the part of an importer or group of potential buyers.
Another option, if the manufacturer would agree (probably unlikely), would be to only import the new receiver, and semi auto parts unique to the new design. The unaltered Bren parts already in Canada could be used to assemble the gun. An owner of a registered Bren might find this option particularly appealing.

[sdh1911]

One of the rifles used by Carlos Hatcock-SDH

[Claven2]

Given that Marstar already has lots of Bren kits, I wouldn't be at all surprised if they were not already exploring these options...

[stencollector]

If the receiver's brand new, not a reweld it would probably be importable...

Bad news guys. I got info today that the receivers in question on the other thread are in fact rewelds. Oh well, back to the wishing well for another try.

[Klunk]

Bad news guys. I got info today that the receivers in question on the other thread are in fact rewelds. Oh well, back to the wishing well for another try.

I thought that would automatically make them 'machine guns' in the US???

DOnt they HAVE to have a new made reciever to be considered legit, non classIII guns?

WHat about the RP whatchamacalit with the pan?
Or the semi only PPSh
Or the semi only PK (Yum)
Or the semi only RPD (double yum)

[Brewster]

Dream gun....

Winchester or SA Garand. Serial number 2.

[Dimitri]

I thought that would automatically make them 'machine guns' in the US???

DOnt they HAVE to have a new made reciever to be considered legit, non classIII guns?

WHat about the RP whatchamacalit with the pan?
Or the semi only PPSh
Or the semi only PK (Yum)
Or the semi only RPD (double yum)

Klunk,

The ATF considers the Mag well the "receiver" so they can reweld them all they want with new magwells. While in Canada ANY part of the reciever would be considered a Converted Auto if I understand correctly.

Dimitri

[Stevo]

I don't know about that Dimitri. When the receiver is cut, it ceases to be a Bren receiver. When the new gun is assembled, they're just parts used in the manufacture. Who knows though.

It's quite a ridiculous situation. In the Czech Republic two (2) different manufacturers just happen to find hundreds of receivers for select fire rifles and "newly build" up two different rifles, the VZ58S and CZ858. These receivers are exactly the same as the select fire VZ58 with minor mods. This is all perfectly okay somehow because the receivers were never part of complete rifles (which I don't believe for a minute).

What we need to do is find Bren receivers that were never assembled into complete MG's. Then, as per the VZ/CZ, they would just need trigger group mods to make them perfectly legal. Of course, they'd be virtually identical to the CA Brens that no one can shoot, but through the amazing power of semantics, they'd be legal.

[Dimitri]

Stevo,

Perhaps your right. I don't really know the technical aspects of the laws much.

Dimitri

[Claven2]

I don't know about that Dimitri. When the receiver is cut, it ceases to be a Bren receiver. When the new gun is assembled, they're just parts used in the manufacture. Who knows though.

It's quite a ridiculous situation. In the Czech Republic two (2) different manufacturers just happen to find hundreds of receivers for select fire rifles and "newly build" up two different rifles, the VZ58S and CZ858. These receivers are exactly the same as the select fire VZ58 with minor mods. This is all perfectly okay somehow because the receivers were never part of complete rifles (which I don't believe for a minute).

What we need to do is find Bren receivers that were never assembled into complete MG's. Then, as per the VZ/CZ, they would just need trigger group mods to make them perfectly legal. Of course, they'd be virtually identical to the CA Brens that no one can shoot, but through the amazing power of semantics, they'd be legal.

Well, considering the same Czech factories that make the VZ58 also made the ZB-37 (ie, Czech precursor to the Bren), that's not entirely outside the realm of possibility. Maybe the RCMP lab would buy the same fishing story twice???

PS: I LOVE my C/A VZ....