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    Announcement Milsurp Target Competition and Shoot (2013)

    Milsurp Target Competition and Shoot (2013)

    A new addition this year is the .22 comp/shoot at 25/50 yds/mtr please see the bottom of this thread,


    A world wide Milsurp Target competition/shoot, open to all Milsurps members, its not so much a competition but to see how each Milsurp rifle shoot.

    There are many competitions we can't get to or would like to take part in but are sometimes the wrong date, place, time, also the categories may be not for our choice of milsurp, example being a WW1 Milsurp comp, its ok if you have a dated rifle but for someone who may be out that date range then it becomes a bit of a pain.



    It’s a basic comp with minimum rules and it's based on KISS, ( keep it simple stupid)

    Any Milsurp Rifle as issued or in line with the categories listed, common sense will tell you what one.

    Any desired position prone, bench, (standing if it really floats your boat !)

    Sling, or rest of any description, but as it’s a milsurp NO bipod unless it was issued with it.

    The Distance is a 100 mtrs/ 100 yrds, as I would think most can get to a 100 mtr range, whatever corner of the world you are in.

    The ammo is up to the individual, home made. Factory, jacketed, cast etc, its your rifle you decide.

    Categories

    1. Any action Milsurp as issued, with original iron sights. (as issued I mean as the rifle would have been, some of us may of changed wood or a barrel etc, but these must be original items, but the bedding of barrels is also allowed)

    2. Same as above, but any iron sights.

    3. Same as 1, but with scope, any scope permitted.

    4. Open to any converted milsurp, either in Calibre, barrel, any sight, iron or scope and bipod, and this is also for any action, Martini etc…, Semi auto (if your lucky enough to have these in your part of the world) or any Milsurp variant.

    5. Any Black powder (Milsurp) this includes any issued or volunteer rifle.

    6. Any Military trainer (See bottom of this thread regarding for the .22 25/ 50 yds/mtr comp)

    The target will be the PL7 or ISSF target cropped to fit on A4 paper which will enable us all to download and print it at home, or you may produce it to the dimensions as shown and you can put this on a backing target also as to increase the overall size etc for an aiming point. you can have 2ft x 2ft, target if you wish but the centre must be marked with the dimensions below.

    Any colour disc or marker would be allowed, again its up to the shooter, If you want to make the target into a tin hat, colour it yellow, red etc, its up to you, as long as the dimensions are standard.

    Additional aiming points may be used, to compensate the milsurp rifles that have the rear sight starting at 200, 300. mtrs/yrds etc.

    How you manage to get 5 rounds on the target at a 100 mtrs/yrds away is up to you.




    The size is as follows:

    V bull = 25mm
    10 ring = 50mm
    9 ring = 100mm
    8 ring = 150mm
    7 ring = 200mm
    6 ring = 250mm
    5 ring = 300mm




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    For those of you who want the full size target in PDF format ...

    (Click HERE to download target in PDF fie format)


    Post pic of the card on the thread,

    5 shots per card,

    2 cards a year per rifle, and can enter as many rifles in each category,

    The results will be posted at the end of the year, again its up to you, when you want to shoot

    If you are having a good day and want to shoot all cards in one day then no probs, if you want to take part in all six then no worries, all in all common sense and honesty are the two main factors, and of course its meant to be fun, its not about being better than the next man, its what you can do with your Milsurp rifle.

    For anyone with a disability and feel they are up to it, but are unsure, then please contact me.

    The initial idea was to allow us ( forum Members) from all walks of life to shoot in our own time, way, position with our favourite rifles and show what can be done with an old Milsurp, plus its free and no pressure.

    If you looking for gold medals, being carried round in a chair, having free drinks, expect respect and want a book written about you then, I,m sorry to say but this is NOT for you.

    If you have an old Enfield, Mauser, Nagant, Springfield, Ross, Schmidt, etc…… and can hit a barn door, the size of a an A4 bit of paper at 100 mtrs then have a go. if not why not try the .22 comp/shoot below 25yds/mtr or 50 yds/mtr

    comp/shoot runs between Jan -Dec


    Info regarding the .22 comp/shoot 25/50 yds/mtr


    This comp was talked about last year, I had a good response so its based the same as the normal categories listed above, except for category 5 this in the .22 comp/shoot will be open to any comercial .22.

    In the categories above for the 100 yds/mtr comp category 6 is the smallbore or Military trainers, for anyone shooting the .22, please state category 6 and the category that relates to that .22 rifle,

    So it will state 6. and one of the categories below

    1. Any action Milsurp as issued, with original iron sights. (as issued I mean as the rifle would have been, some of us may of changed wood or a barrel etc, but these must be original items, but the bedding of barrels is also allowed)

    2. Same as above, but any iron sights.

    3. Same as 1, but with scope, any scope permitted.

    4. Open to any converted milsurp, bigger shorter barrel, any sight, iron or scope and bipod, and this is also for any action, Martini etc…, Semi auto (if your lucky enough to have these in your part of the world) or any Milsurp variant.

    5. Any sighted comercial rifle. (this is also for any reprodution type Military.22 rifles available)




    So for example, cat 6.2 would be .22 original with a PH site or similar, 6.3 scoped .22 etc....


    Targets

    The target used is the ISSF target used for air pistols at 10 meters, which should be readily available in most countries, if not the link should give you the correct size target


    25 yds/mtr https://www.milsurps.com/attachment....9&d=1357933469


    50yds/mtr https://www.milsurps.com/attachment....0&d=1357933470

    All the same as the 100yds/mtr but a mini version, and I,m sure all the poorest of us can scrape up 5 rounds of .22

    So good shooting and all the best for this year.




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    Just a thanks to Doug for helping me out, also for anyone who is looking foreward to the .22 side of things, I hope to make the changes to the above post so all will be revealed in the next few days or so, Have got my hands full at present and am trying to get the target sorted., for anyone who is like a dog on a leash and cant wait, I can only suggest use the target Patrick mentioned in (2012 shoot) the ISSF target used for air pistols at 10 meters, see link below. this is what I plan to use, as its standard (we hope)

    Milsurp Target Competition and Shoot (2012) post #36

    Sorry for any delay but the unexpected always happen when you least expect it, and once I,ve made a few changes to the overall guide lines etc in post #1, I will advertise on a few of the forums.

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    Smallbore Targets

    Here are 2 pdf files I made for Smallbore target use. First is for 25yards/meters as per listed size at the link above. Second is just double the ring size. I hope these work.
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    Thanks Fred, that should speed up the process, will try and copy them in to post one.

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    For all concerned have updated the starter thread with info regarding the .22 comp, it looks ok to me but a bit of proof reading from a few would be of help just to make sure, then will give the other forums a link once it has the thumbs up.

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    A first for the .22 @ 25yds, cat 6.1, excuse the patch but these targets are old used air pistol ones, see the ones below it, the target I printed off was only on paper, once hung down the range it was like a wet tissue. Anyway the rifle is a new addition to the hoard,

    A conversion of a MLM, cant tell original date, it is 18??as this was scrubbed later, but made at BSA & M Co, so guess it started life as a MLM Mk11, then upgraded to Mk11* ?, converted 1905 at Enfield Sht LE CONd 11* , then converted again at Enfield to Sht .22 111, just lacking the Hiscock Parker magazine, but cant complain has had a scrape in the past and would guess it was done in New Zealandicon (See sticky by lance in the Enfield forum regarding .22 Enfields)













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    Another one to add to the above (cat 6.1 with same rifle thats this one boxed off (2cards complete), but will use same rifle but with a aperture sight for cat 6.2), obvious luck was on my side yesterday, My excuse was shooting on a different range, still 25 yds but its like shooting by candle light compared to yesterdays range.

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    Scope for #4 Mark 1 T back from England

    I went to our 1st Military match for the new year and dialed in the scope that Mr. Laidlericon redid for me. The target I include is the 4th 5 shot group at 100 yards. I had 1 round left so I took another shot. To say I am happy is to understate my joy. Thanks again for the wonderful job on the scope.

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    I would like to get a ruling BEFORE I go forward with my plans. I am going to do some minor update work on my Ruger 10/22. It already shoots better than I can, but want to play around some with some simply touches. The enhancements planed are; NEW stock maybe with bedding, Simple trigger polish, and measurement table of torque on assembly screws.
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