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    Hello altogether,

    many thanks - such a great engagement in this short time ! :-)

    Really surprising. So many posts and so many members - and several prominent members, too. Amazing :-) An special thanks to Frederick303 and Bruce in Oz !

    First of all, I intend not to shoot at 1000 yards. Because this scope is not suited for such an great distance. It allows an height adjustment for 700-800 Meters in maximum. And, of course, the Enforcer is not a military sniper rifle. It's an Police Sniper Rifle with an intended operational range of 100-200 meters resp. yards, maximum. It seems, that shots over 100 yards have been avoided. The cartridge and his long barrel, too, on the other hand should allow shots until circa 700-800 meters.
    Today I know that some bullet diameters and types of powder charge are not suitable for this rifle. And of course, I intend to enjoy and keep it as long as possible. It is since 27 years part of my Enfield-Collection.

    I'm glad that I didn't try some of my M118 National Match ammo.

    This questions so far: this MEN ammo, what bullet weight and production code has it, please ? Here in Switzerlandicon we have a trader with amazing good relations to military ammo, since several years. MEN Surplus .303 Britishicon, for example and MEN .308 Win. 190 grs Match and other seldom ammo. But not RG- and only a few 7,62 mm-NATO-Ammo by which I don't have any experience or near info.

    First I used mainly the known Lapua Match 185 grs D46 - without knowing what I know now - it worked well so far. No visible troubles. Until one day an really old case was touched. Has anyone experience with this ammo ?

    What about the Norma 190 grs Match, please ? I bought it after this Lapua case touching but didn't use it til now.

    Im glad about any informations to this ammo types.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David TS View Post
    GGG is also brilliant STANAG spec ammo, available in 5.56 and 7.62

    GGG 7.62x51mm 147Gr FMJ (100Rds) | ammo-zone

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    This is the original ammunition 'design criteria' issued by the Police BUT remember much development has gone into Ammunition since the early 1970's, so the phrase "any 7.62 service cartridge" may no longer be valid.


    An extract from the design specification for the rifle that was to become the "Enforcer"

    7.62 mm Ammunition
    Any 7.62 mm Service cartridge., Ball,, Tracer, or Blank, may be fired in the Police Rifle.
    It is, however, the intention to use high accuracy Service Ball ammunition as issued for use by the Service Sniper. This is identical to the high accuracy ammunition supplied by the Ministry of Defence to the National Rifle Association for use at the 1970 and 1971 Imperial Meetings at Bisley, where many new records were set up, and which resulted in reductions in the size of target scoring areas for 1972.
    Mine are not the best, but they are not too bad. I can think of lots of Enfields I'd rather have but instead of constantly striving for more, sometimes it's good to be satisfied with what one has...

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    Following on regarding GGG ammunition, it is made in a purpose build factory in Lithuania, the factory constructed in 2000. It is not surplus as such, although it is STANAG spec, most of it is within a year or two old. It is top quality.

    If your trader has good connections, he may well be able to source it in Switzerlandicon.

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    An additional thumbs up for GGG, superb quality stuff and very consistent.

    I was talking to a guy at my range who uses GGG in his L42 with excellent results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enfield Enforcer View Post
    Here in Switzerlandicon we have a trader with amazing good relations to military ammo, since several years. MEN Surplus .303 Britishicon, for example and MEN .308 Win. 190 grs Match and other seldom ammo. But not RG- and only a few 7,62 mm-NATO-Ammo by which I don't have any experience or near info.
    Regards from Switzerland
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    I'm not the best shot in the world, by any stretch of the imagination, but using the MEN 7.62 I can easily group inside the 9 ring at 100m on a 50m pistol target. I just wish someone would get some of that MEN .303 and bring it into The UK.

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    Forgive my ignorance, but what nationality is the MEN ammo?

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    Germanicon, I do believe.


    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Payneicon View Post
    Forgive my ignorance, but what nationality is the MEN ammo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by limpetmine View Post
    Germanicon, I do believe.
    And again many interesting posts :-) And still some more celebrities :-) Thanks.

    Special thanks to Alan de Enfield - i haven't seen this information before. And Yes, i will consider your warning, of course.
    David TS: GGG-Munition is completely new to me, it looks really attractive. I will ask my trader as soon as possible.

    Roger Payneicon: ammo from MEN comes from Nassau, West-Germany, true. They produce primarly for authorities, Military and Police. Therefore we usually see not much from their fine quality ammo. I hope, this few pictures help. I was really surprised to find this .303 Britishicon MEN by this trader, ca. 12 years ago. Unfortunately, i - dreamer - catched much too few of this fine stuff. It was a 170 gr FMJBT in a nice orange 56-round box for approx. 60 Swissicon Francs. Basically made in the Year 1988 for the rifle-reserve with Lee-Enfields in a NATO-Country - I believe for the Netherlands.

    harry mac: i can imagine that. This MEN was a very accurate load, according to a test and my experience. I try to get all information and place it here. Perhaps there is a bit of this ammo left, who knows.. :-) Dreaming must be allowed !

    Greetings from the"Heidiland"
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    Second pic along post #29 is the surplus I've used in the past, one example is a Enfield with a L42 barrel fitted and a PH sight, even with me behind the trigger I was punching the paper and making clover leaf,s at 100mtrs, a few were just in the same hole.......... considering the price at the time and compared to the other lads with expensive rifles with all singing and dancing telecope, plus the reloads they where using which were the result of many hours of expense regarding the amount of different powders and bullet weights etc....... it certainly brought a smile to my face, as their targets weren't what they quite expected, I should of framed mine...

    The cheapest I've seen it recently was about £47 a 100, it was when I was searching for 7.62 x 39, which has doubled in price.......

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