FN 1A1 vs. FN L1A1 vs. FN C1A1

[Sunray]

"...Small Arms Ltd..." Yep, from 1940 to 1945. Since then it's Canadian Arsenals Ltd - Longbranch Plant.
Dominion Arsenals(ammo of all types) and SAL were made into Canadian Arsenals in 1945. There were ranges there from 1891. And a W.W. I flying school. Grew up about 5 miles from there. Been in the original building. Surprisingly small. Considering all C1, C1A1 and C2's plus STEN's and No. 4 Rifles were made there. Shut down by Trudeau when the C1 production run was finished in 1975. Used by Canada Post for a while, then building was torn down in the mid '90s. The inspection building is still there though.

[Raggylad]

There was a method, using a matchstick between the rear bent of the SEAR and the rear step of the trigger, but that meant taking the trigger assembly OUT........., and you can't do that without taking the LEVER, change out..... and that's retained by that bloody akward split pin. AND, if you did manage this, on the range without being noticed, you would have a rifle that only fired automatic.

The matchstick method was b****y dangerous. As Peter says, the rate of fire was horrific and there was a very real danger (if done with live, not blank) of the whole bolt carrier assembly coming out through the top of the stock Rattail in the cheek anybody ?!

[infidel]

With the C1, we used to stick a piece of foil (gum wrapper) in somewhere, probably the matchstick method (almost 40 years ago!), & they went full auto. I never had the problems with the C2 that others have described-bang, bang, stop. a good weapon. I had a L1A1, a friend made a full auto safety, swapped them out, it worked fine, no other adjustments /changes needed. Fired lots of full auto with it & the fal, never saw any red barrels. Just my experience.

[Rule 303 LE]

"...Small Arms Ltd..." Yep, from 1940 to 1945. Since then it's Canadian Arsenals Ltd - Longbranch Plant.
Dominion Arsenals(ammo of all types) and SAL were made into Canadian Arsenals in 1945. There were ranges there from 1891. And a W.W. I flying school. Grew up about 5 miles from there. Been in the original building. Surprisingly small. Considering all C1, C1A1 and C2's plus STEN's and No. 4 Rifles were made there. Shut down by Trudeau when the C1 production run was finished in 1975. Used by Canada Post for a while, then building was torn down in the mid '90s. The inspection building is still there though.

Sunray: Just where did you live?

I lived on 42nd St from 1950 to 1960. Used to fire cadet .303 on the Lakeview ranges.

[Dimitri]

My father was in the Greek Army, in the 70's. He went from the M1 rifles to the FAL. He ended up becoming a Drill Sgt by the time he left, using the FN FAL's, there was a adoption of the G3 rifles after he left the service however.

They were building from the smallish pictures my dad has of him then the 50.42 FALO (commonly said "FAL-O"), FN 50.61's and the standard FN 50.00 (said "F-Knee").

Dimitri

[sniper3]

Hi all, I've got both suit and susat sights, but the rubber eye guards are rotting away and need to replace them. Does anybody know where I can aquire them?

[ropewalker1]

Hey Guys, anybody know, was C-79 Elcan common on service rifles, or
special purpose issue ? I have an Imbel Metric Receiver and what appears
to be Israeli wood furniture. It has a heavy stainless steel barrel with
five opening flashhider. Don't have pictures. I have an STG and it's not
nearly as heavy. Just curious.

[browningautorifle]

The C79 ELCAN IS the sight issued for the C7, C9 and the new C8 and all the post production versions. The troops are putting other things on them and overseas issue varies a bit. They never had anything to do with the FN family.

[ropewalker1]

Right BAR. Elcan is really acronysum for Ernst Leitz Canada. I have one on
an Imbel. I'm so far from an expert, thet I really don't count. This rifle has
a really heavy barrel, that appears to be stainless steel. It has a peculiar
looking short forearm with perforated metal shield between it and gas block.
The forearm wood is open at top, with two half inch metal rings on gas tube.
I need to research and find some history on this rifle.

[NavyShooter]

Actually, not entirely true.

In the early EX-2 rifles, there was a "unit power" (1X) optical sight.

If my research is correct, it was made by Leitz, and it's trade name may have been the "uni-sight"....but I'm open for correction.

The C-79 Elcan was never issued as part of the FN family accessories.

NS