FRENCH LE 1907-15M 34MAS 7.5 x 54 BERTHIER CARBINE INFORMATION NEEDED

[mas34]

well here it is. I believe that all the markings are present in pictures.
At first I thought that this rifle had been messed with a lot.
It was coated with rust, as can be seen in the before pictures. after reading the information provided here on this website we are not so sure. yes we all know that the butt piece has been replaced... At first it looked like the barrel had been worked over...stock.. sights... bolt...
This rifle fits the specs listed on another thread here


* Berthier Carbine and Rifle Information *

( * Berthier Carbine and Rifle Information * )



Please note the 1934 info...

This carbine has MA T1935 ON THE BARREL
AND AF C or G AND ALSO A B IN A CRRCLE
F901 IS ALL OVERTHE GUN... APPEARING TO BE THE SERIAL NUMBER..RIGHT?... IT IS ON THE BOLT, RECEIVER, TRIGGER GUARD


ON THE SIDE OF THE RECEIVER IT HAS LE 1907 - 15 M MAS 34

ONE QUESTION I HAD ACCORDING TO THE INFORMATION PROVIDED ..WAS THE FACT
THAT THE STOCK DID NOT HAVE A PLACE FOR A BAYONET.. THE FOREARM STOCK LOOKS FACTORY MADE WITH NO OTHER KINDS OF MARKS OR FINISH. iT LOOKS LIKE IT WAS MADE THIS WAY.


ALSO NOTE THE BOLT IS DIFFERENT THAT OTHERS...AND THERE IS NO SIGN OF RECENT TAMPERING TO THAT EITHER. AND ALSO NOTE THAT THE SERIAL NUMBER IS THERE.


SO gentleman.
Please have at it with your opinion as to just what we have here.
I believe this to be an early run of the
Fusil d'Infanterie Modèle 1907-1915 Modifié 1934 or simply “M.34”,

The length of barrel, sights, length of rifle are as they are stated on the other link.
And yes someone for goodness sakes let me know where I MIGHT BE ABLE TO AT LEAST GET ONE ROUND OF 7.5 X 54 AMMO.


Now i will try to post pictures. Please no one tell me I had a million dollar carbine until we cleaned it up a bit....

Thank You in advance for your help. A factory scope mount would be super... And some fo the stripper clips also....

Jay

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[mas34]

Pictures that I hope will provide interesting and maybe learning information...
Jay

[jmoore]

..WAS THE FACT THAT THE STOCK DID NOT HAVE A PLACE FOR A BAYONET.. THE FOREARM STOCK LOOKS FACTORY MADE WITH NO OTHER KINDS OF MARKS OR FINISH. iT LOOKS LIKE IT WAS MADE THIS WAY.

Someone has "sporterized" your carbine by cutting much of the forend away. Then sanded it heavily. Probably at the time the rubber butt pad was added. Scarce rifle, which would make returning it to military configuration probably difficult. However, I don't know that adding a scope would be a good exercise, either. Nothing mount-wise readily available, and the bolt configuration would just about require either a side mount or a barrel mount.

[Aragorn243]

Ammo is not commercially made for this rifle and to my knowledge never has been. The supply of surplus ammo is limited these days but it is out there. Most of it is machine gun ammo that has been removed from the stripper clips and then boxed for re-sale. You do not need clips for this rifle, it has a box magazine. If you strictly wanted stripper clips for loading, they should be the same for most other rounds of this size.

As ammo is tough and drilling and tapping the rifle would decrease it's value even more than the sporterization has, I wouldn't recommend it either. It is an uncommon rifle, shame it was altered but it is not a super rare one.

[jmoore]

Ammo is not commercially made for this rifle and to my knowledge never has been.

Pvri Partisan currently manufactures said ammo.

Random PPU ammo photo with 7,5x54 in the middle:

[Aragorn243]

Now that is good to know. I wonder if RCBS makes dies for it yet.

If they would only start making 7.7 Jap I'd be all set.