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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaydee View Post
    This is why I posted my M-1 Garandicon, i wanted to find out all the information I could. I purchased the weapon based on the fact that it was a 1943 Springfield era Grand. From the information you supplied, I am not sure that is true.
    Anyway, The receiver will be that date but the rest of the parts are a bit of a mish-mash from re-build. Doesn't take from effectiveness just isn't correct for the date mentioned. By the way, selector switch? I take it you mean safety...Magazine catch...Clip latch? I don't think your trigger guard is type one.
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    I would like to, I have 500 rounds. The Throat gauges 0+ and the Mussel gauges 0. Not bad for a barrel dated 3-S-A-3-44. I really don't want to shoot it, but I would like to sight it in. Can you give me more information on the 200/200 range.
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    Where can i find examples of the different types of Trigger guards??
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    I (assume) it's because he believes we were rude to you, a first time poster, by not welcoming you before giving you our somewhat snarky opinions, we mean well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaydee View Post
    Where can i find examples of the different types of Trigger guards??
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    There are in order of issue the forged and milled, recognized by a hole at rear of guard. To improve/simplify manufacturing a new design was submitted and approved in late 43' for a stamped guard (like yours), but it probably didn't make rifle assembly until spring of 44'. There are variations of course but if you need more detail than that I'd suggest you begin assembling a library of reference material.
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    Very nice Garandicon but not 100% correct. Canfield has a great reference book on the Garand and how they were.

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    There are a lot of variables & options involved in sighting in the M1icon (rear sight markings, battle zero vs bullseye). I can email you a pdf of a short article on zeroing from the February 1997 American Rifleman, if you would like.

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    sighting the Garand

    That would be great. My email is kaydees@embarqmail.com
    kaydee

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    Thanks,
    I was beginning to think this forum was something other them learning and sharing information. I am new at collecting M1icon (my spell check wants to put the dash between the M and 1) Garand and the M1 Carbine. I have been all over the internet and read a lot of inputs, but some of it is confusing, but I'm learning.
    I am also a retired Police Officer from California.
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    were the Type 1 trigger guards forged and the type 2 milled, or did you have Type 1 milled and forged and type 2 milled and forged?

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    OK I wasn't clear.
    The original trigger guard is forged then milled, takes more hours of labor to complete than....

    The replacement trigger guard which is stamped, that is what you have. There are only two types, milled and stamped ( for simplicity sake).

    If this is your first M1icon then shoot and enjoy it, you won't hurt the value. Better yet, hook up with the members Snafu suggested, better to get a hands on evaluation, it saves you from having to post about 2 dozen HQ pictures. All those confusing answers we're giving can be explained easily in a meeting at the range. Better yet if you have any problems they can spot diagnose on the range, worth an hour drive in my opinion. Someone will field strip it, make sure it's lubed correctly, make sure the parts are assembled correctly, and then you can shoot.

    Good luck

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    Kaydee, your nomenclature & types didn't seem familiar to me. The reference I use for identifying M1icon rifle parts is "Collecting the Garand II" by JC Harrison; I'm not sure what the others use.

    In describing condition, I use the Civilian Marksmanship Program's list: see Rifle Sales - M1 Garand . This is a good source of information, & most US collectors have at least one rifle bought from them. It sounds to me like you have the equivalent of a "service grade" rifle: excellent barrel, mixed parts.

    CMPicon gauges & test fires all rifles that they sell. Until you become familiar with the M1, it may be worthwhile paying a gunsmith to do a "technical inspection" before firing it (should cost < $100). Depends on whether or not you know the rifle's history.

    When I visited the Villages a couple of years ago, someone told me that there was a nearby range; I never checked into it, so not sure it is so.

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