Deactivated Mk3 and L4A3 Brens Available

[Peter Laidler]

See exactly where you're coming from KG but the simple fact is that those few I saw ALL had (or the remains of) their old RAF stores CONTRACT labels still attached together with the old A-M small arms part code numbers

[Peter Laidler]

Regarding the UK UF/UE/UB type serial numbers on these guns, it's worth noting that the instructione were that these were only to be allocated to UK Military contracts. For example, New Zealand and Rhodesia (as was) Ceylon (as was again.... and I think Portugal but I'll have to check on this one) wanted L2A3 guns with the L2A3 US58A type serial numbers but couldn't have them. And again, when the commercial users such as the Police wanted the L96, they were not permitted to have the UA80A type numbers. Riot/baton round guns from Enfield with UE serial numbers. ONLY to the UK Military.......... Just something else to consider

[sfowler]

There is a Company in Munich that produces single fire Versions of several machine guns and machine pistols, but they don't have a Bren in the line up. If they could get hold of a truckload they would probably be offering it. I know they have Stens and MG42 Units for sale that have been registered as Sport rifles in Germany, so they should be acceptable in other EU countries, but I don't have the 4200 Euros they are asking for them. I think I saw the Sten for 850 Euros.

[Brit plumber]

There is a Company in Munich that produces single fire Versions of several machine guns and machine pistols, but they don't have a Bren in the line up. If they could get hold of a truckload they would probably be offering it. I know they have Stens and MG42 Units for sale that have been registered as Sport rifles in Germany, so they should be acceptable in other EU countries, but I don't have the 4200 Euros they are asking for them. I think I saw the Sten for 850 Euros.

I'd love a live Bren and I know there are a lot of other Brits who would too. Trouble is, lots of those people used to use them and they'd all be going for the go fast switch only to be disapointed when they can't get it out of first gear.

[sfowler]

Yes, I do see that. I know it is difficult to Register any form of firearm in Britain. Still, the Company is

Niedermeier GmbH


Zenettistraße 29
80337 München
Bayern

Telefon: 0049 89 776737

E-Mail: info@waffen-niedermeier.de
Waffen Niedermeier - Ihr Büchsenmacher für Sammlerwaffen Sportwaffen Dekowaffen Jagdwaffen in München
I expect somebody there speaks English

[Peter Laidler]

Maybe they could resurrect a load of old deacts into single shot live firing Bren 'sporting rifles' After all, they aren't starting from a live firearm. They are starting from a non firearm as defined in law. So technically the 'once an MG, always an MG' rule of thumb wouldn't apply. After all, it doesn't seem to apply to single shot L1A1's.......................

Go for it BP.

[sfowler]

Well, I think in some cases they are building them from parts, not converting an existing one. Then they give it a slightly different Name and suddenly it stops being a machine gun.
Bavaria is known for a very liberal Interpretation of any form of firearms Regulation. If you want, I can give them a call at some Point and ask if there is anything Happening in that direction.

[Kev G]

See exactly where you're coming from KG but the simple fact is that those few I saw ALL had (or the remains of) their old RAF stores CONTRACT labels still attached together with the old A-M small arms part code numbers

Yes the wrapped ones did have both RAF and Army coded numbers on them but until I can find the allocated serial numbers for the 55/56 Irish contract for the thousand Brens already mentioned it isn't known if these wrapped Brens were part of that contract or a later order.
I'd be interested to know what the procedure was regarding foriegn contracts after manufacture and proofing.Were they stored and shipped directly from Enfield or were the stored at somewhere like Weedon until ready for export ?

ATB Kevin