Pressed my retro 602/SP1 clone into service on patrol....

[imarangemaster]

Well bad finances dictated selling my gorgeous Standard Products M1 Carbine I sometimes carry on my high country power grid security contract, and are even necessitating selling my Kalifornicating legal M4 with hammerhead grip that I alternate with the carbine. This left me minus a long gun on counter terrorism patrol...not a good thing!

On the odd chance I do run into Achmed and his Mujahadeen buddies trying to shut out the lights for Sacramento, I decided to press my 602 clone into front line service. As I want to use my "legally possessed before 1 January 2000 high capacity magazines" I had to replace the "evil features" that make it a wicked assault rifle. I replaced the evil three prong flash hider with a Wilson Combat Comp (legal) and that dangerous pistol grip with a Hammerhead non-pistol grip. The hammerhead does not work as well on a full stock as it does on a CAR stock, where you can grasp it like an FN P90 grip. I will probably get a Kydex paddle for the pistol grip when I can afford it. They handle better with full stocks. Overall, it is still a handy sub-6 pound bundle of 5.56mm whoop-@ss!



With mottled A1 handguards


With round A2 handguards


My Rock Island Armory 1911A1 duty side arm


The "old man" who carries them:


I still haven't decided which handguards to use. I like the feel of the triangular, though they are a little loose. I hate to beat up such a pretty pair of mottled handguards, though, so right now I have the A2s on it. The A2s have no wiggle, which helps secure the weapon better, since the Hammerhead "underhand" grip is not very steady.

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[jmoore]

If it's not too unwieldy due to the extra length, I would have to think you better off overall.

[imarangemaster]

Well, the fickle finger of finances threw me a curve. After two weeks on Gunbroker, no one bit on the M4, even at $650. However, someone gave me $700 for the retro AR15 as a parts kit, less stripped lower receiver! As much as I wanted to keep the retro, I sold it (less receiver) and put the M4 back into service as my patrol carbine:


Now I have a receiver for a .300 Blackout build when finances improve!

[WarPig1976]

What is that " Thing " in place of the pistol grip??? Is it one of those People's republic of California make our streets safer parts? How do you use it?
I'm not being sarcastic I really don't know what it is...

[imarangemaster]

It is called a "Hammerhead" grip. In Kalifornistan, a semi-auto rifle may not have a detachable magazine if it has any of the following "evil features": pistol grip, collapsable/folding stock, flash hider, grenade/flare launcher, or forward pistol grip. The hammerhead is not a pistol grip under their complicated legal definition. I also have a muzzle break instead of a flash hider, and the stock is pinned in the open position, so I can use detachable magazines. Also the magazine must have been possessed in Kalifornia prior to 1 January, 2000. After that date, it became a felony to bring a magazine of more than 10 rounds into the state. I have had my high capacity mags since the 70s and 80s, so they are legal to have and use.

The hammerhead is actually not a bad grip, once you get used to it. It is about the same grip as an FN P90 PDW grip. I handle the M4 as well with it as the standard grip, with the exception of the safety is a little more difficult.

[WarPig1976]

"Shall not be infringed" comes to mind. So even security personnel on guard against " terrorists " in Kaliforistan can't have the deadly assault weapon features? Now that's not "common sense". Stay safe...

[kosmolinekid]

Numerich Arms has a permanent locked M1A1 Carbine stock now. I'm drooling over it right now is that Cali-legal ?

[imarangemaster]

Numerich Arms has a permanent locked M1A1 Carbine stock now. I'm drooling over it right now is that Cali-legal ?

NO, because it has a pistol grip and Kalifornistan says pistol grips are evil and dangerous!

[kosmolinekid]

Naturally ! Not that it stabilizes the Carbine to make it safer to hold. I had an L1A1 with a Thumb hole stock that made it almost to operate the Safety. I would have to take my thumb out of the hole and reach around to flip the Safety off. Good thing I have a "compliance" stock on it now.