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    My new to me Arisaka with a twist

    So I bought what I think is a good representation of the WWII Type 99 rifle. With a full mum which is important to some and not to others and with all matching numbers. It is a Nagoya rifle from my little bit of research and the kicker is it has been converted to .30-06. I know the Korean War story about how some were converted and given to the South early in the War. This one lacks those marks but is still in full military dress. It's cool with me however it got that way as I consider it part of the history and mystery. What I would like to know is the series but that mark is very faint and if it is late enough in production that it should lack the missing parts such as cleaning rod, monopod, dust cover, and aircraft sight wings. Any help and opinions would be appreciated. I think it looks good compared to others that I have seen.







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    Since it still has an intact mum it's most likely a vet bring back that was converted to 30 06 in the 50's. Ammo for the 7.7's and the 6.5's were difficult if not impossible to come by back then so many were rechambered to a more readily available cartridge. The 6.5's were rechambered to a wildcat based on the .257 Roberts case necked up known as the 6.5-.257 Jap. A friend has a T38 carbine in that caliber and strangely enough all I have ever encountered were carbines.
    The conversions ranged from excellent to awful in quality. As long as head space is good you shouldn't have any problems with it although I have heard of the chrome peeling from the throats of the converted T99's. Best accuracy will most likely be with handloads using .311-.312 bullets.
    Your rifle is a Nagoya but I cant see the series mark well enough to make a swag as to which it is.

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    Wow. So cool. I didn't even know that was a thing.

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    Do you all find it odd that they went to the trouble to re-chamber the rifle and then left it in it's original military configuration? So many fellas in the 50s were doing sporters that I am surprised that someone went to this effort and then left it as a Japaneseicon military rifle. The seller says he has shot clay pigeons with it out to 65yards with no problems. That seems fair accuracy compared to some of the horror stories I have heard and read of. Thanks fellas!

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    Well as long as you're happy that it is a rechamber then that's all that matters
    I personally would never get one that was rechambered since one of my friends shot one that had a bad headspacing problem and the the bolt practically flew out of the reciever and put a nice dent in his car and messed up his hand from the recoil. Plus since one like that isn't in full military specs being it's not the original caliber I would just look at it and keep walking on

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    What I find odd is going to the trouble of rechambering the rifle instead of reforming 30-06 or other suitable brass into 7.7. Perhaps the T99 30-06 conversions belonged to folks who didn't reload?

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    or were too lazy to try and reload

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    I like it, I am not walking away and if it shoots well like the owner states I will leave it. If it is a crappy shooter I will put a new 7.7mm Jap barrel on it and call it good. Thanks everyone for the honest input.

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    What you have to remember is that after the war, surplus 30-06 ammo was dirt cheap and there seemed to be an endless supply. The term "30-06" held a mystic connotation much the way Corvette "427" does in the car world. I have the twin to this rifle (in 30-06). They are devalued somewhat but still a nice piece of history. I would leave it as is. Salt Flat

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    It can never be restored to "correct" without replacing the barrel so I wouldn't go crazy trying to make it "correct".

    The action is strong enough to handle a 30-06 so for a shooter, should be fine.

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