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    How very true........

    I was reading an article about the latest Chinese aircraft carrier which will be the worlds biggest with over 10,000 crew.
    The hull was apparently sold by a Russianicon to a Chinese "scrapyard" as scrap metal, 2 years later it has come out of the dockyards totally rebuilt into the massive beast it is today.

    As we ex military men have always said look to China as the next threat to world peace

    Here's the Washington Post version:............

    The Chinese navy is using its first aircraft carrier, the Liaoning, for training and testing and will decide on an operational carrier for the fleet after a few years of evaluation, Admiral Wu Shengli said on Thursday.

    The navy chief of the People's Liberation Army, on a military-to-military visit with his U.S. counterpart, told reporters at the Washington Navy Yard that Chinese sailors would carry out "very heavy" training over the next two or three years as they assess the carrier.

    "After the training and experimentation we will have a final evaluation on the development of the aircraft carrier for the PLA navy," said Shengli, whose delegation included the commander of the Liaoning and the first pilot to land on its flight deck.

    The Chinese carrier was built on the shell of a Soviet-era vessel that China purchased from Ukraine. China revamped the ship, which was formally commissioned in September 2012. Flight operations began two months later.

    The launch of the first Chinese carrier is been seen as a symbol of Beijing's ambition for greater global influence and another sign of its rapid military buildup. U.S. officials have downplayed the importance, noting that it takes years to learn to effectively integrate carriers into fleet operations.

    Senior Captain Zhang Zheng, the commander of the Liaoning, said the carrier was smaller than U.S. aircraft carriers and had a "ski jump"-style ramp at the end of its longest runway.

    "We have around 36 airplanes operating on board our ship," he told reporters. "And we are still practicing and doing tests and experiments for the equipment and systems."

    Wu, Zhang and Captain Dai Ming Meng, the pilot who first landed on the carrier, visited several American ships in California earlier this week, including the carrier U.S.iconCarl Vinson, where they met with their counterparts.

    "We talked in great detail in San Diego with our aviation people and Admiral Wu's aviation people," said Admiral Jonathan Greenert, the U.S. Chief of Naval Operations, who hosted Wu. "It was great and inspiring to see two professionals talk about a common challenge - aviation from an aircraft carrier."

    Wu received a ceremonial 19-gun salute at the Washington Navy Yard, the U.S. Navy's oldest shore establishment, during his formal welcoming ceremony on Thursday. He and his delegation visited the Pentagon later for further discussions.

    The Wu visit was part of stepped-up efforts to improve military-to-military ties between the United States and China following a break in 2009 due to U.S. military sales to Taiwan. More than 40 visits, exchanges and engagements are planned for 2013, versus 20 last year.
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    China is, I believe, the biggest buyer of U.S. scrap metals so it'll more than likely end up there one way or another.
    Better than being turned into an artificial reef like the Oriskany was I guess.

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    I have given the 1 cent price a bit more thought.
    Once the buyer meets all the EPA OSHA and the rest of the alphabets rules and regulations
    they will probably be lucky to make a profit.
    USS Alabama is the only warship I have been luckey enough to tour (as a kid). Magnificent
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    Here's a part of the footage taken aboard.


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    Thanks for a great video! I wondered if it was still available.

    Reminds me of the crash we had on Okinawa of a B52 that caught fire and blew up with a full military bomb load. Two airman died. Plane was just short of our bomb dump where 10,000 pounders were stored

    All the was left was the wheels

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    Quite a display of bravery on that deck. RIP

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    Sadly, Something that could happen at the blink of an eye, when guys get tired or distracted at crucial moments of loading or arming anything.
    Seen highly experienced guys lose fingers over mortar tubes, when the pressure was on, so I have to say........."There but for the grace of God go I"
    Tragic loss of men who showed outstanding bravery on that day, and probably now why they have a bulldozer on carrier decks with fire screens built around the driver seat.

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    I served aboard the USS Intrepid CVA11. I was aboard the Forrestall CVA59. I saw the world. I also felt vulnerable. The Chinese Mig21 shot down our air cover. 763 F4's.

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    Yes tragically the F4's were brilliant in their day, but they were slower compared to other faster jets. Maybe why us Brits put a Rolls Royce engine in our variant instead of the MC D.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gil9713 View Post
    now why they have a bulldozer on carrier decks with fire screens built around the driver seat.
    Watching I had the thought that some sort of equipment able to push the burning aircraft off the deck would have helped.

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