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Byf 45
Hi All,
Ran into a BYF 45 in my travels. Haven't got any pix, but seems like a period correct piece. Only minus (other than it being late war manufacture) is a coat of Bubba-goo high gloss finish, repleat with some runs in it. (unless they really did coat them with something like that, but I doubt it.)
Seems to have a solid birch stock, as opposed to laminated, and has the diassembly washer in the stock. So not exactly a Kriegsmodel.
Any thoughts on what the pricing should be like?
Anything to carefully look for given that it's late war manufacture? (I'm thinking both safety and accurracy issues. Other shortcuts to look for?)
Looks to be a CAI import, if that matters.
Would like to have a decent 98, but not sure if I should just look for a earlier year of manufacture?
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I have one in my personal Oberndorf collection, but I haven't had time to create an MKL
entry for it...
Here's some rough pics in my on-line personal photo album ...
1945 byf K98k Mauser - Badgers Photo Gallery
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Doug
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You aren't likely to get an RC for $300 anymore. $400 is probably the minimum these days. They wan $350 for the Yugo M48's.
Depends just how "late war" it is as far as safety concerns. They did start cutting corners toward the end of the war.
It does sound like an RC, especially if it has a purple tint to it. Should be an X on the receiver and a serial number in the stock.
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Originally Posted by
WarPig1976
Pictures are worth a thousand words... But, it sounds like a
Russian Capture mixmaster. Comrade Bubba smeared shellac on thousands of
K98's after they spent years in bins, some outside.! If it is an RC, who knows nowadays but around $300 to $400 is all I'd be willing pay.
One thing I missed when buying mine was,, Look down the stock from the rear to insure it isn't warped. Mine is but I got lucky, I'm a righty and it tucks nicely into my shoulder..
Edit> CAI import.? Russian Capture for sure..
How does one identify an RC? I was thinking there'd be an x on the receiver. I didn't notice one. Will have to go back to the store and check.
It doesn't look like shellac. At least not the red shellac that's on my 91/30. This is more like Birchwood Casey's. Heavy, transparent kind of finish.
Seems evenly phosphated, rather than reblued or painted, like I read some RC's are. Any thoughts on that?
They're asking $400. So I guess it's not completely out of line.
I mostly worried about the quality issues.
But not in any rush. I have a reasonably nice M48 as it is. It just happened to be on the rack and thought I should do some research.
The thing that has me baffled is how such a late year gun isn't in a kreigsmodel (spelling?) stock without a bolt disassembly ring. Now I'm wondering if it is a mixmaster.
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They don't ALL have an X, mine is one without. RC for sure.!! No doubt. The only part verified 45' byf is the action. If your a shooter and not a hardcore collector and like what you see,, buy it, it's just as good as the next....
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Originally Posted by
Aragorn243
You aren't likely to get an RC for $300 anymore. $400 is probably the minimum these days. They wan $350 for the
Yugo M48's.
Depends just how "late war" it is as far as safety concerns. They did start cutting corners toward the end of the war.
It does sound like an RC, especially if it has a purple tint to it. Should be an X on the receiver and a serial number in the stock.
I should invest in a camera. Not sure the dealer would like that though.
It's not purple. It was light enough grey I almost thought it was blue that had been buffed too much. But really I think it's then phosphating.
When I first saw it in the rack my expectation was that it'd be blued.
I didn't see anything that looked too "cut corner-ish" really, other than the finish. I didn't tear into it to look as serial numbers and whatnot. Was really just in too pick up another gun that was coming off the waiting period.
But wondering if I should ignore the Bubba-goo and grab it.
My M48 was a last year purchase at a Big 5. I did pay about $300 for it. It was missing sight hood and the accessories. Really wanted the matching bayonnete. But with the "frenzy" going on and that it has sat there for almost a year that I knew of... I said, "What the heck, give me it." That's an overall great condition gun, for sure though.
The frenzy thing really does seem to have cleared the shelves of the Mosins, Vz 24's, M48's etc. I.e. the remain stuff that was less popular when all started. But I was happed to get an M48 not the A or B... I like forged parts.
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Quick Question, if anyone knows... Where is CAI getting all these RC guns? Is Russia just dumping them, or are they coming back in from other communist countries?
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Ok, this isn't the actual gun in question, but it's finish was like this... kind of a uniform grey. I'm not even certain if this what phosphate looks like.
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I had heard most of the rifles were coming out of the Ukraine but I have no evidence to support it, just word of mouth. RC's were usually blued. They went in, were stripped down, good parts put in bins, bad parts tossed. Then they cleaned everything, blued most of the parts and then put them back together like a new rifle only they didn't care about matching numbers. They then engraved the bolt to match.
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