Looking for info on C.No7 front sight info.

[D-BOMB]

Hello all,

I am looking at a CNo.7 trainer and it has a competition style front sight globe. My first question is if anyone has any knowledge of the sight, I believe it is a Parker hale.
My next question for some of the members who have more hands on experience with a Cno.7, has any permanent alteration been done to this rifle that you can see to attach this globe? Not that I'd want to but would it be possible to fit a "standard" front sight?

Also I can't find a definitive answer on this one, did all Cno.7's come with a target swivel? I ask because I have seen them with or without, this one being without it.

Cheers!

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[rgg_7]

The globe front sight has been added to the existing sight block. This was sometimes done by smallbore shooter who also installed 5c sights. I'd remove the globe sight by undoing the thumb screw. You might be "lucky" and find the front base block unaltered. If altered good luck in finding one. Ron(Canada).

[D-BOMB]

Thanks for the reply, Ron.

I remember reading that the CNo.7's have a proprietary front sight base, different from the No.4. Does anyone else have any expierance with this globe and could comment as to what could be under it?

[Peter Laidler]

If it's anything like the UK competition forsight block bands, they were just normal ones with the foresight bed machined rioght down and a new longer dovetail cut in to allow for the P-H tunnel foresight to be fitted. So said, the modified foresight block wasn't either wide enough or man enough to cope and the tunnel foresights were constantly working loose in the blocks.

Mathematically, there's no way that a tunnel foresight can be made to work on a standard un-chopped foresight block band. Well, it COULD, but the foresight would be far too high to do any shooting with. You could raise the backsight but............

[rgg_7]

Remove the front sight to see condition of the base block. Post a picture and we'll tell you if it was modified. CNo7 were issued with and without target swivels. Ron(Canada)

[D-BOMB]

It's not in my posession. These are photos from the seller of an example I am potentially purchasing.

He qoutes "Skennertons book says there were 2 versions , the Infantry and the Match

In the 40's the military worked with the Society of Miniature Rifle Clubs in configuring the No7

The military had various trials and prototype rifles and Skennerton has a photo of a trials with the front globe sight"

I'm just trying to confirm the validity.

[Brian Dick]

The C No.7Mk.1 front sight base is the same as a standard Long Branch No.4Mk.1* as far as I know. I've got plenty of them, (both British and Canadian), that have never been fitted if in need.

[Warren]

The Canadian No.7 front sight base is not the same as the stock No.4 Mk.1.
Try and get a picture looking down the muzzle.. Then I can tell you if it is an original Canadian No.7 front base or not.
Picture is now attached and you can see the difference. The one on the right is a Canadian No.7 front sight base.
You will notice there is no key way for the bayonet lugs as the Canadian No.7 does not have provision for a bayonet, as do the others. The British No.7 and No.9 have the key way but not the Canadian.
Attachment 48544

[D-BOMB]

Wow thanks very much, Warren! In the photos I posted it does not have the cut outs for the bayo lugs. I have sent an email to the seller and asked if her could take off the front globe and photograph what's under it.

[rgg_7]

The CNo7 does not have bayonet lugs and holds orientation by 2 tapered pins; one top and other bottom. Warren's pic shows the sight block detail you would expect to encounter on a CNo7. The information you are quoting from Skennerton is not correct for CNo7. The military issue uses the base block shown with the sight protector (common part with No4) and a windage/elevation adjustable rear sight. Your CNo7 conversion with the globe sight was done by non military personnel for small bore shooting. Definitely not a correct detail for an issued CNo7. Ron (Canada).