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    Is there a correct scope for the PH M85?

    Hope there is a Parker Hale brain that can help. All my reading on the Parker Hale M85 tells of the S&B 6x42 scope being fitted as standard. Anyone know of rifles being supplied with Hensoldt 6x42 scopes fitted?
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    4x10 x 45 Pecar in a M85 Parker Hale one piece mount on the few I've experienced. The only other that I heard about and never seen was the 6x42 S&B. Ron (Canadaicon)

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    Surely, as a privately owned independent commercial company, PH would make and supply their kit to the customers individual requirement. And price of course! If they wanted all the bells and whistles, then they got the lot and the best. If not, they got something further back down the scale so to speak.

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    Cheers Peter, that makes sense.

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    Kahles ZF84 and ZF95 in both 6x42 and 10x42, but most british ones i have seen with S&B PM1 6x42 like the L13A1

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    Thanks Dan.

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    Official PH Sales Blurb lists the scope as a 6 x 44 Daylight Telescopic Sight and it looks to me to be a BDC Tasco.

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    Were these the replacement for the L42A1?

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    Very interesting pamphlet Simon. It appears that the M85 shown is a cameo painted walnut stock. I see the literature also offers a composite. Hard to tell the scope manufacturer without a larger picture. rings are definitely Parker Hale's. Sling is a rare bird...only seen a couple of those over the years.

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    Ron,
    The original rifles produced numbering some 50 built by Eddie Taff and Bill Smallwood at Parker Hale did indeed have Bisley wooden stocks.
    It was only later on in the project that they started drying up and McMillan were approached in Arizona with the flexibility of producing the colour variants in the plastic for the rest.
    The DEF STAN 05-21 or Defence Standard related to the rifle as DERA and other Government units took it onboard for evaluation and general fiddling around as they do. I am sure Peter can relay some tales lol.
    It is probably these types of initials on paperwork such as the leaflet that led people to believe the rifle had been fully passed for service use. Wording seems to be used wisely on the leaflet giving that impression.
    Whilst a large number of weapons went to "MOD" affiliated agencies, I can find nothing in my pile of PH stuff or on speaking to those who were there at the time, of units being allocated the M85 as a substitute sniper rifle perse!
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